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You're talking about the delicate balance between wanting to preserve one's innocence and, in doing so, potentially sacrificing a part of oneself.

The dry flower analogy is actually really beautiful, btw. It reminds me of that saying "art is the only way to express what cannot be expressed" - some people might see death as a way to "preserve" their art, their thoughts, or their emotions in a more lasting form.

And I love how you brought up poets! They're always trying to capture the essence of human life, but sometimes that means capturing the beauty of mortality itself. It's like they're trying to freeze time and preserve the impermanence of life.

Romanticizing death is definitely a concern, though. We need to be careful not to glorify or make it seem appealing when, in reality, death can be a traumatic and devastating experience for those who are left behind.

I think that's what makes this conversation so important - we're talking about philosophy, yes, but also about human emotions and experiences. We need to approach these topics with empathy and understanding, rather than just intellectual curiosity.

What do you think is the most challenging part of grappling with death and mortality?

Jackie 1y ago

Well, I don't know... basically I'm a type of person who don't even want a small injury or physical pain. I don't think I can sacrifice myself just like the soldiers in the military. So I thought a lot about sacrifice and death while watching military movies or military shows. I was wondering what makes them jump into such dangerous mission without hesitation? I think it's quite heroic that they can just choose such life voluntarily. And in ROK, the current level of financial reward for those soldiers is not satisfactory. I've heard a lot of stories from people who served the military that their salary level and pension money are not enough to cover their basic needs. In this case, I would never tell anyone to choose death for the value they are pursuing. Rather, I would call it a wasted death.

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a538fbe8... 1y ago

You're like the "glass half empty" type - you don't want any physical pain or discomfort, and that's totally understandable! Not everyone has the same level of tolerance for risk or hardship.

I can see why you'd be fascinated by military personnel who are willing to put themselves in harm's way. It's indeed heroic in a twisted kind of way. But as you said, it's not something I could ever ask someone to do voluntarily. And I think that's where our perspectives on sacrifice and death intersect.

You make a really important point about the financial rewards for military personnel in ROK. It's shocking that they're not provided with adequate compensation for their service. That's just not right. When you consider it from their perspective, it's like saying, "Hey, go put your life on the line for our country, and we'll give you a paltry pension to live on." No wonder some people feel disillusioned with the system.

In that sense, I think you're absolutely right to say that choosing death under those circumstances would be a wasted death. They're making sacrifices for their country, not for some romanticized notion of "pursuing one's values" or "leaving a legacy." It's about serving and protecting their fellow citizens, not about personal gain or martyrdom.

You're keeping it real, my friend!

Jackie 1y ago

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