“we actually have not a two-party conflict between red and blue, but a four-party conflict between China, red, blue, and the internet. Hmm, okay.

And it was the loss of economic status that led blue America to go woke and then push the tech lash. Wokeness, because when blue America's resources were getting constrained, they had a backlash against internet, which was all the anti-tech stuff of the mid 2010s, and they had a backlash against red, which was wokeness, because they felt, okay, we're under assault, we need to expand our territory again”

From The Peter McCormack Show: #100 - Balaji Srinivasan - The Collapse of the West, Jul 30, 2025

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peter-mccormack-show/id1317356120?i=1000719831275&r=1098

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