With all respect to GrapheneOS, which itself is great, Android phones are like emergency food rations: you should have them, but only use them if you don't have a choice :-)

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(and yes I have one and I occasionally update it)

and apple phones are a cornucopia of cancer

Curious what choice would you propose Sjors?

I'm in favour of letting people eat whatever they want, and use whichever phone they like.

Did I understood you correct that you prefer iPhone? If so, why?

Because I find the Android UX terrible. I tried it for a year. It's a matter of taste of course.

I would say that GrapheneOS is way better for advanced users than iPhone, but it is definitely vice versa for casual users.

For the most part I use my phone for normy things, like waking up, scheduling calendar appointments, checking in to flights, navigation and photography. I find iOs to work *way* better for most of these. And because with Graphene you can (and should) turn off most of the Google stuff, you lose any potentially good UX that Android does have.

Try e/OS/. Pretty same UX as an iPhone.

my issue with android is they keep changing it to be more and more complicated, and the motorola g51 i bought nearly 3 years ago the way it turns on the screen every time the gyroscope or mic gets some signal

creepy, just downright creepy

but honestly, i don't think apple devices are any nicer except more smooth, and actually they are actually more creepy

i used to use apple computers back in the 90s and 00s and they were already creepy then, idk what to say,

PUT DOWN THE PHONE AND YOU WON"T GET HURT

really really fucking simple

they are literally trying to keep people hooked these days by forcing them to use them for banking

that's their last bargaining chip

people will drop their creepy bullshit tomorrow if they can, if they must, and they will probably must soon

shit like today points that direction

yet another shitcoin hax

yet another incroachment of the government towards people's lives via the means of their phones, which they keep people hooked to via the banks and this constant, incessant stimulation

I tend to agree. I put them in the same category as nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx so eloquently put re seedsigner and 3D printed guns.

“I’M GLAD THEY EXIST, IM NOT GOING TO RELY ON THEM, BUT IT’S NICE TO KNOW THEY EXIST SHOULD I EVER NEED THEM”

Use pinePhone instead ;) will even run a bitcoin full node, will probably wear out your SD card though but you can always connect an external drive 😂

FWIW I do think that Apple acted reasonably given that they had three choices:

1. Give the UK a backdoor

2. Turn the feature off and hope that UK users complain to their government. Especially after the nudes start leaking en mass - nobody wants to see that :-)

3. Ignore the order. That would probably require closing all UK Apple Stores and evacuating all physical, financial and personnel assets from the UK - and from any jurisdiction that cooperates with the UK. Which basically means Earth.

doesn't change the fact that if you are in the reach of these psychopathic busybodies you probably are gonna be getting what any reasonable human observing the situation would be predicting is coming

and why a LOT of people have gone back to their home countrties after working over there for years (seen dozens of people in this situation, many many of them are all back at home because things were getting messed up

and it's not the incroachment of the government that drove them back home

it was the money

agreed 😅

Soon there will just that one choice!

Look away for two seconds and these pro #ChatControl creeps show up again:

> Rani Govender, policy manager for child safety online at the NSPCC, said it wants tech firms like Apple to ensure they are balancing child and user safety with privacy.

> "As Apple looks to change its approach to encryption, we're calling on them to make sure that they also implement more child safety measures, so that children are properly protected on their services," she told BBC News.

> The UK children's charity has said that end-to-end encrypted services can hinder child safety and protection efforts, such as identifying the sharing of child sexual abuse material (CSAM).

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgj54eq4vejo

They wrote propaganda like this, probably using the same kind of misleading polls that the EU used.

> More than half (55 per cent) said the ability to detect child abuse images was more important than the right to privacy;

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/globalassets/documents/news/nspcc-discussion-paper-private-messaging-and-the-roll-out-on-end-to-end-encryption.pdf

Graphene only, no exceptions for me. Eventually, I'll be replacing my tablet with my older iPad or a Pixel tablet with Graphene.