Southern California can’t exist without the Hoover dam. Northern California would be fine. But half the state without water is untenable in a secession plan.

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Yes but you made a blanket statement implying water could be shut off to the entire state. It just bothers me that the entirety of a massive state gets lumped in with LA and San Francisco. There’s been an ongoing movement for Northern California to secede from Southern California which will also never happen

That’d be cool

State of Jefferson is the antithesis of all that is southern california. Its actually become more free than places like Tennessee that people having been moving to en masse "for more freedom"

Agreed. Spent the first half of my life in West Virginia and I feel no less free where I’m at now in Northern CA