Anyone used Threema? How does it compare to SimpleX?

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I've used it. The problem is very few others are willing to pay for it.

True that’s a barrier for network effect.

Exactly.

I mistakenly posted to the above post. My response was meant for here.

Even if you encounter one person worth talking to privately, it is worth your $4.99 to get the app. It won't get mainstream adoption, but when do privacy people want mainstream solutions anyway?

Why not SimpleX for free? What makes Threema better from a technical standpoint?

Haven't had anyone require it get. But if someone important wanted me to use it, sure.

Anyone who isn't willing to pay $4.99 and euro or bitcoin equivalents, with no friction after that, doesn't have a need or desire for privacy.

I've used them all, and real privacy people have signal (mainstream) and threema (serious people) wire, and session.

Such a weak excuse calling $4.99 a "barrier to entry."

Okay. Mainly interested in learning, the comparisons of their privacy features and tradeoffs.

Check:

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html

and rate the security

green = 3

yellow = 1

red = 0

results + (where the money comes from)

1. Threema (self financed by the users) = 71

2. SimpleX (VC from VillageGlobal) = 68

3. Element Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 68

4. Conversations (App Price) = 66

5. Wire (Janus Fries / ex-Skype-Founder) = 63

6. Signal (Brian Acton Ex-WhatsApp) = 62

7. Briar (OTF = US Goverment) = 58

8. DeltaChat (OTF = US Goverment) = 58

9. iMessage (Apple) = 44

10.WhatsApp (Facebook Meta)= 44

11.Telegram (Putin) = 40

12.Skype (Microsoft) = 37

13.Discord (Ads?) = 34

OFT = Open Technology Fund

SimpleX Chat got 370.000 U$ from Village Global

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/simplex-chat

https://www.villageglobal.vc

= Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates & Co.

Always look where the money comes from!!!

UI/UX is far more polished. Works smoothly, reliable. Messages get delivered fast. It has the best call quality of all E2EE instant messaging applications I've tried till now.