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It’s possible they aren’t anymore, but assure you they were 5-10 years ago. The online market has definitely changed things, and maybe it’s changed that on the whole. But I promise you they used to chew their mouths on that shit, and it was distinctly different whenever you’d get it pure. I would wager very little of this type of stuff turns up in databases. Usually it moves through 2-3 hands after the border and gets dispensed at parties rapidly. In certain scenes, no one bothers testing.

goatmeal 5mo ago 💬 2

I really don't agree. I think "laced LSD" is just a complete myth, right up there with all the other silly things people say such as "double dipped" or "made with strychnine." it's much easier and more straightforward to pass off a totally different drug as LSD and this is what all the available evidence points towards.

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Ian 5mo ago 💬 1

I spent 8 years doing something in that world on a multiple times a week basis. I know acid, I know the other trips, I know phenethylamines & amphetamines. I know K, I know how it differs in experience from MXE. I used to taste e pills and usually did a pretty good job identifying shit for people. You’re not talking to an amateur. They used to do that because if you end up with a dance floor full of Indian circles and goofies to clean up at 2, 3am, it’s a real bummer and often a liability.

You don’t have to believe it. It’s okay with me. But you haven’t really given me a hypothesis that explains the givens I’ve laid out.

I 100% understand the sentiment though. Some of the myths used to drive me insane. You could not convince people heroin was almost never in E. So many would say it. Or the cops who get high on dope “just from touching the bag.” People think some wild shit, and God forbid they managed to achieve some confirmation bias on it at some point in their lives, they’re not budging.

goatmeal 5mo ago 💬 1

you can't identify cuts or substitutions by bioassaying a sample in your own body and comparing it with your own memories. you can't even reliabily identify cuts with reagent test kits, not even if you buy one of those gimmicky at home thin layer chromatography kits. you have to send the sample to a lab like drugsdata or energy control international and pay for GC-MS/HPLC-MS.

Ian 5mo ago

I guess if I’m trying to write a paper on it or prove it to someone, but none of those drugs really create those upper symptoms I mentioned.

This was pretty common knowledge among the old heads at the time.

Hanshan 5mo ago

yeah this is correct.

there's zero incentive to cut it with anything

and on a single tab of paper its basically impossible to do.