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it's a feel good argument. who shows you some smiling faces? how did it turn out in history?

you think they are less oppressed now because some foreigners want to rule?

how old are you? when did they tell you that last time and how did it work out?

"we invade and loot, but here look at some smiling faces, all is good. don't ask any questions."

HoloKat 1w ago

That’s not what’s I’m saying at all. I’m NOT happy about this and I don’t feel good that it happened. And I’m not saying it’s all magically resolved. I don’t want to see this happen. History shows US meddling only creates more problems down the road - Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iraq. I’m not ignorant, nor naive. I’ve only heard a few accounts of actual Venezuelans expressing relief and I’m acknowledging their thoughts. I didn’t look at any smiling faces. And I’m not defending this act nor justifying it.

It remains to be seen if anyone actually benefits who is actually oppressed, but if they do, I’m glad they might have a chance to experience a better life, that is all. I am happy for the individual IF it works out for them - but I’m not saying it will with any certainty.

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HoloKat 1w ago

I have personally lived through a similar event and it benefited me significantly. I don’t say which exactly but it was also through foreign meddling and it actually turned out temporary better for me and my family. I’m not 5 🤣

bumi 1w ago

great, happy for you.

(my post here also was is about if it is good/bad. but the lack of questioning and the sudden support for a state from people who always claim to reject the state. People who don't want to be forced by the state now cheer that the state forces others to something)

HoloKat 1w ago

I haven’t seen anyone on nostr cheering it on (maybe I muted them already?) or maybe it’s from X? I’m not sure, I’m not on X.

bumi 1w ago

yes,

I just try to say that this is imo the exact propaganda and distraction that makes it work and they want one to believe in.

For sure some people will be benefit from new rulers, just as some people had benefits from the current rulers. There is no doubt.

HoloKat 1w ago

There can be nuance in all of this. It’s not all black and white good and evil. Sure, it may be spun whichever way is beneficial, I can’t control that.