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Those that martyr themselves, and their children for ideology then, and think that is the ultimate purpose?

That cult?

I don't know if they really think about it that much, it's just insane to collect in a big suicidal group either way

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Let me help you. They think about it a lot.

I don't believe you, and why would this help?

Oh boy, if I have to explain this to you, we will be here all night.

I'm bored again. It's the entire premise of why "If Israel just did this" is nonsensical.

You did well for a few mins. Congrats