according to science it takes 10 years to go away. i would say that's about right.

whether you are building naturally or on drugs it will take about 10 years to lose the gains once you stop.

of course that doesn't mean you keep it for 10 years and then it disappears. it means you probably lose half of the gains in about 2 - 3 years, then half of what is left in the next 2 - 3 years, then after the fourth halving so to speak it's pretty much gone.

that's kind of what it felt like but everyone is different for example soon after i quit i got fat and started doing lots of cardio to cut. bought an expensive road bike, started cycling 3 hours a day and within about a year of this right when i finally got in shape ( 170 lbs down from 230 ) i got in crash and dislocated my shoulder, and was unable to train normally for like 10 years after that.

so it's not like everything stayed the same i just quit drugs. a lot has happened. i quit my gym, i stopped benching completely, i started doing cardio, i dislocated my shoulder, i started swimming again ( i was on swim team in High School but quit swimming to focus on lifting when i got to college ) and so on ...

but it's really irrelevant because most guys never quit. i only quit because my shit got pulled off the market. plus i was a virgin when i started and my goal was to lose my virginity and that goal was achieved so i had no reason to try to find a substitute for the shit i was using and i just quit, got fat and my GF started cheating on me and we broke up.

most guys do one cycle per year to look good for summer, the problem is depending on what drugs you do, and how you do your recovery you may end up with a limp dick right for that beach season. and of course in Florida it's always Summer.

i never experienced limp dick issues while i was using but i was very young and on my 1st GF who was hot and i was madly in love with. plus transdermal cycles are short like oral cycles. injectible cycles are longer so your T gets more suppressed. pretty sure if i was older and did a proper injectible cycle i would end up with issues afterwards without very good PCT or even with.

transdermals really are the best. short cycles with fast recovery like orals. low liver damage like injectibles. probably not super great for skin but you have better odds surviving a skin problem than liver problem.

technically with injectibles you could be doing HCG during the cycle itself that way your natural T production never goes down in the first place but for some reason i was told people don't do this so i also didn't. but most likely they just don't do it because of low IQ, or to save money.

you have to keep in mind when you do these drugs that most people you associate with in that sphere are completely retarded. this is the main danger - listening to retards when it comes to your health. there are supposed to be some books on the subject that explain all this stuff like how to do post cycle therapy and you would want to find out what the best such books are and read them before doing anything. most bros just ask each other for advice then act surprised when they shit out their liver and their dick falls off