Always good to listen to a real debate between 2 intelligent people with different POVs and managed almost impeccably by nostr:npub14mcddvsjsflnhgw7vxykz0ndfqj0rq04v7cjq5nnc95ftld0pv3shcfrlx.
George had some good points but he is an example of what exactly nostr:npub1s05p3ha7en49dv8429tkk07nnfa9pcwczkf5x5qrdraqshxdje9sq6eyhe always mentions, the more you know and benefit from the current system the less able you are to visualize a different one.