It's funny how, up until version 25 of the core, we all agreed on the filters.

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You can’t ban consensus rules with policy .. eventually they’ll find its way

This is another problem to address, and the solution is not to allow spam because ultimately you are damaging decentralization because bitcoin will be used for many things it was not designed for.

Consensus is what matters in the end.

And in fact this is very important because otherwise someone can come with 50 thousand raspberries and run a new version of core forcing rules that we may not have agreed with

So likely attacking bitcoin is not that cheap

Once again, up until version 25, we agreed with the filters. What has changed?

So we also removed protection against DDoS attacks, which is not part of the consensus?

Thinking that with bunch of raspberries running non consensus set of filters you can enforce new rules is another attack and luckily bitcoin can resist to it

DDoS attack you can spin up thousands of nodes without it and still bitcoin will resist ..

So in the end.. consensus or exit

Everything else is irrelevant

And by the way, the same people who dislikes op_return are opposed to op_ctv, op_cat etc

Should they have agreed with it, we wouldn’t be having this op_return debate and all the jpegs and stuff would live in other layers

You're telling a lot of lies.

First of all, the filters worked up to version 25. If now it's a person who decides the filters (which is also a lie because knots has more and more developers), it's because core refused to fix the bug.

Your claim about the DDOS attack is nonsense. DDOS is there to protect your node and make it usable.

Many people who support Knots support CTV. In fact, it is likely that CTV will be implemented first in Knots.

In fact, everyone who criticizes Knots is always the same: shitcoiners, samurai, monero, and other crap.

I’m simply saying that unless consensus is achieved then anything else is just trying to cure cancer with bandaid

DDoS is not consensus.. simply an obvious local protection that whoever runs nodes would want to have

Maybe wrong about ctv and if there is consensus then that’s where discussion should be and together with that then we can all review if having that data in op returns make sense

That said, if we use bitcoin enough we can price out all that garbage… if we enable more use cases like ctv then base layer would simply be expensive for garbage and there would be incentives for them to do it on second layers