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The last feature of https://jumble.social/ in 2025:

A reputation filter that hides notes from the bottom X% of users by reputation.

It works across feeds, notifications, and replies, and is especially effective at reducing spam when browsing large public relays. #devstr

Isn't this the same as having social credit scores? Seems like it could definitely lead to that at the very least...

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I've made that connection too, but not quite. Its relative to who you know, who they know, if they've made their profile identifiable, and have a vanity address linked. The only "social credit" factor is if the given calculation weighs against user reports.

Either way, WoT scoring exists in lieu of being a truly open protocol that people use as a platform for speech & is wholly voluntary, but highly encouraged to use to filter out the noise and spam programmatically.

No system is perfect and there will always be people who are considered a false positive.

The scores are currently based on the network of relationships, your reputation increases when followed by high-reputation users. Since there are a lot of spam accounts in our network, most normal users end up in the top 10%.

I think this is quite different from a social credit system.

it's soft defense for a soft attack method. i'm sure there will be ways found to game current schemes and they will get more advanced and circumvent these attacks.

This is bound to be a long-term battle.

it's necessary security, but i think the current designs will limit legit new people from appearing, i think money is a primary simple thing, LN+nostr... NWC. the idea of not zapping to use stuff will be normalized.

i mean, denormielized

I initially thought about the new user issue as well. But I realized that new users are usually brought in by an existing user, once that user follows them, their reputation is higher than that of spam accounts.

that's onboarding flow issue that needs to be dealt with also then

Yes for sure, if its not the government deciding what's socially acceptable or not..