Here's an update about the account ban of my proton account, they agreed to reinstate the account, basically told me I used the VPN too much and it looked suspicious, then practically said it's ok if I get their premium plan. 😠

I also never did anything to violate the terms.

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Now I see. I'm not surprised. Proton's free tier has been used by scammers since inception, so the free tier has its limits. I think most of the people who have been saying this has never happened to them are actually paying for Proton services.

Again, if you want, you can even pay in cash through the mail, they will generate a random email address for you if you don't want to give them one (I can help you with this process).

You do not have to give them a backup email—in fact, they highly encourage you not to because that's personally identifying information.

You can sign up over Tor. I highly recommend actually paying them for their services. It seems like you have been enjoying their services enough for that to make sense.

I don't think I want to pay those MFs anything now, I was a laid member a while ago but didn't use the extra services enough to need to pay for it, you can use the VPN without an account so I will do that now, I will keep using their other services but do backups more frequently to a computer.

ā€œUnlimitedā€ šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£

šŸ˜‚ The whole thing is retarded, they said they thought I was performing a DDos attack or something, I just use the VPN on my phone sometimes, my entire proton account was locked out and I wasn't able to access Anything.

Nostr with new Amethyst is retarded, I am sorry but I still think it’s the case. Amethyst tries to open hundreds of WS connections, and pull same data over and over. Any system for detection of DoS will flag it as such. Don’t blame the Proton, blame the inappropriate use of network resources by the software

It did happen right after the update yes, I was thinking the same thing.

I do blame proton though, if you don't want me using the VPN, disable that, but don't ban my emails and proton pass and stuff.

Dos is a criminal offense, so it is better if the company pulls the plug instead of trying to ā€œwarnā€ you. I bet that they put all of your data on a legal hold too, so deleting shit is pointless.

Yeah, true. I explained actually in the email that I use it for Nostr and that Nostr connects to a bunch of different servers a lot, The were asking why I have an account and what I use it for.

I haven't run into any issues with mullvad or iVPN since the update. Both take lightning for payment too.

Will need to try that. Thanks

can second, i use mullvad and havent had issue (but i also set up proxy relays pretty early into update).

It is the reason. So, now you have to pay more because someone is not thinking of the users when they implement ā€œgreatā€ features

Use a proxy relay, that will disable the outbox mode. A WoT relay configured for your user, filter.nostr.wine or aggr.nostr.land are good choices.

I always think the best use of using VPN is when you are on public network ,

Yesterday I was drinking at coffee house and I switch on my VPN and it was great .

Also the same when I am at the airport , I used my VPN after log in to the airport public service .

When I am at home , there is no need of that VPN.

This will make you more traceable on Nostr. Image hosts, every relay, people's nip-05 servers, and any links that have previews will all see your actual IP address. This could be used to identify you potentially.

Is this true though? I've not noticed increased data usage, and though there are far more relays, most of them transmit little data. Here are the top 25 data using relays, after a day of use. After this it quickly tails off into single MB and kB.

In my experience uncompressed media is a far greater issue for bandwidth issue, with 2MB avatars and 400MB 3 minute videos šŸ˜‚ When I made Flappy Nostrich the biggest issue was downscaling avatars to non ridiculous sizes.

I am more worried about multitude of sockets to random IPs, and their implications on security. Selective fetching and on demand connection to specific relays is probably fine, but that still can be insecure and may result in some exploit or user activity tracking. As I posted a few days ago or longer, even TOR crumbles under many connections to multiple sources. I don’t have the solution, but I think proceeding with caution is warranted.

There, in a more civilized and less casual language

An interesting article. I wonder if anything in Tor has improved these issues in the 15 years since it was written? A lot was about bitorrent itself having issues, but the third point could be of concern, if it still is an issue.

I think the issues was architectural, and that may have improved, but I also think that ā€œthe stateā€ could inject enough nodes into network to uncover the origin.

I think for a lot of people using a proxy relay could be a good choice. I'm actually connecting to less relays on average than I was before when I set it up that way.

Is it a default though? The defaults will be used in majority of cases

No you gotta set it up, default is outbox mode. I'm not sure what relays would be a good choice for that and are free. I use my own WoT relay & Nostr.land, but I think aggr.nostr.land needs subscription, and a wot relay is less useful if it's not configured for your own npub.

Why are people still using that godawful fucking app?

I think this is an issue if you disable tor support in Amethyst. With tor enabled I see maybe 20-30 tcp sessions as I guess the rest of the relay connections happen via tor. With tor disabled I see over 1000 tcp sessions which as you say is retarded. This sort of thing is likely to get flagged by some DoS protection systems. I can see this also being an issue for users behind CGNAT where users are allocated a block of ports which may be limited. It might have actually been NAT session monitoring that flagged it with Proton as I believe their free VPN is NATed.

I never seen this before . I noticed something changed there in Proton since they have crypto wallet .

Something totally opposite from what the founder

Intended to do , he would never agree to that .

If there is acquisition in the proton it self , then it surely do not making headlines . Who owned proton now ?

I don't trust proton.

I heard that it's based in Switzerland and owned by Israelis.

And their third party audits are not actually third party.

I never bothered fact checking it.

Just took whoever's word for it, so correct me if that info is wrong please

lol

step 1. Have free tier product

step 2. Get mad at people using it

step 3. Say that using a vpn on a single device 12 hours a day is unreasonable

step 4. get rekt

I don't even use it that much, mostly just when on Nostr.

Well that is super unreasonable then. I imagine having it just in your phone at all times is a common use case which is much more than just a few hours a day

I just opened a proton email account 3 days ago because it was suggested at a btc conference šŸ˜‚

Could be Amethyst connecting to hundreds of relays each time you refresh your feed, due to the recent change to Outbox model or whatever. Probably looks a bit like a botnet node from a network topology perspective.

Nostr is screwed at a protocol level. It's too complicated, there's too much variation, and twenty gazillion relays still aren't censorship resistant. #Pubky is the answer.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket

what does used their VPN too much mean?