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Yeah exactly, that's a very important point. Views are definitely not ideal as they might create echo chambers and thus an unbalanced reality. Zaps instead might reward hard work because they potentially come from hard work themselves. And hard work is always good (at least in my view) 😃

Either how, the fact that the architecture allows for different incentives/signals is the absolute key. The best mix of incentives will win.

I'm still not 100% clear on what are the incentives of relays themselves, need to study some more. Why would I setup a free relay for example?

Thanks for the answer!

HoloKat 2y ago

Relays act as backups basically. If one goes down, your content lives on another. This means even if you are somehow deplatformed, you can just use another client to connect with people. Or if a relay censors, you just don’t use it as there are plenty of other options.

Free relay would only be for hobby I think. Or to back up your own notes. You’d want to be sustainably funded somehow eventually hence paid relays and or other ways of monetizing (which I don’t think we’ve figured out yet)

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CitizenPedro 2y ago

Yeah, I don't mind paying for a relay. I'm just curious if the network will ever be publicly sustainable without some sort of global incentive to host it.

i.e Mastodon/ActivityPub is a series of echo chambers and the ideal is that #nostr never becomes an echo chamber, right?

I do like the line on Github: "there's always gonna be someone with a server in Russia that will accept money to host your stuff"

I would say that's very legit 😄

HoloKat 2y ago

I don’t have the answer to how we’d scale globally to many millions of active users, and not sure if anyone does yet. Everything is so early that there are so many experiments to run to see what works and what doesn’t. I don’t think anyone can draw any definitive conclusions on funding methods yet. I think partially and perhaps ironically is that you need scale to figure out how to stay funded at scale. There are far too few users to draw any serious funds from right now.

Regarding echo chambers, I don’t think any social network is immune to them. Even nostr. We have somewhat of a bitcoin echo chamber right now for obvious reasons. A lot of that goes away simply with more users. Nostr does have a strength in that it’s censorship-resistant and more tolerant of differing opinions. We are building tools to curate our own experiences with options to form our own bubbles, or not - totally up to the individual.