Am I selfish or lazy for feeling like I just don't want to work a traditional job? I'm not lazy, I'm a hard worker when it's something that I'm enjoying or benefits me directly, but when it comes to doing work in exchange for fiat for other people while I make them rich, I just don't want to.

Call me selfish but I just don't want to live my life that way, I'm still young and I feel like I want so much more from life but just don't know what I should do.

I hate waking up every day to go do something I hate, I don't like The Man telling me what to do.

I don't want to live like that, I just don't.

I on the other hand don't know what work I would really enjoy or else I'd be doing it .

I didn't go to college nor will I because it seems like mostly useless waste of time that will land you in debt unless you have a very neche interest that you are very good at and passionate about.

Any advice would be great.

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Find out what you love to do for fun the get paid for yhat you wont have to work a day in your life if you do what you love you have yo find that out for yourself no one can help you find that part out.

My advice? Listen to the man, until the voice in your head screams louder. Everyone hates their job, if they say otherwise they're full of shit. People aren't meant to work there whole lives away, weve just been told it's work, or jail. I've debated several times of a career switch, but the longer you wait the harder it is to get outta. College is for nothing but a piece of paper claiming you know more than someone without. Everything is a giant pyramid designed to keep us low. Gots to find that ladder 🫂💜

Find what works, run, and never look back!

I agree, it's all BS. I don't want to work on a fucking factory making someone else rich, I don't I just don't and I see all these people who have been there years, some decades and I don't want to be like them.

I know some, barely moves until clock out time 🤣🫠

The dudes been there longer than I've existed 😭

They gave him a watch.....like....

Here GFY. Show up on time, or well replace you.

Hell of a gift to get someone who's worked for your company half their life.

Should have gotten him a car or something. But this is exactly what I mean, before this I was working in fast food and one guy there was like 45 and said he'd worked fast food for like 30 years, been at that restaurant for peanuts like 7 years, I'd rather not exist honestly.

To each their own but fastfood and retail jobs are two I will never be able to mentally go back to. People suck (most are very rude to them folks 😔)

Yeah I dealt with some rude people, I was however able to ignore a lot of them or laugh it off with coworkers when they left.

I hate factory work where I feel stuck around people I don't like and am being observed and critiqued all the time

Did factory work for a while but after a few years I felt I got dumber and dumber. You adjust to people you spend most of your time with. For me it was the best way to learn i definitely never ever wanted to do that again and take a dive into the deep.

Best choice of my life so far, but with all the changes happening in the world I feel I will have to transition sooner than later once again. Stuff is moving fast currently.

I don't have many IQ points to spare either! 🤣🤣

You’re here so you have more than enough spare IQ 😎🔥

Thanks fren 🫂

#SometimesYaJustNeedToHearIt 😂

Some of my best memories in retail are the jokes that followed them leaving 🫠🤣🤣😜

The Chinese didn't think like this and look at them now?

Pulling an entire country out of abject poverty to now be the no. 2 contender to the hegemony.

Probably good to look into that kind of mentality too.

You're never too old to learn a trade.

You just have to accept that you'll be underpaid as an apprentice and get treated like a bitch for 5 years.

Honestly I'd recommend finding work in a nursery, raising plants.

You may not think it's for you but you'll realise how rewarding it is.

Especially a tree nursery, the work is really easy, the only heavy lifting is mixing bags of potting mix and soil

Mostly just watering plants, and if everyone is up on benches the weeding is really easy work because you're not bending over to do it.

Even if you got no interest, you will learn to love working with plants, getting your hands in the soil has serious benefits to your physical and mental health.

College, Trade School, or Certificate.

Suck it up for a while, build a nice cushion, start a business.

Figure out what your purpose in life is, lean into things that interest you.

Work at Walmart, tacobell, McDonald's, or other companies that offer College Tution grants.

Use Coursera.

I used to believe the woke college debt thing but if you're smart about it you can completely avoid both, and be debt free from a non-woke college.

Same boat.

Kinda just floating doordashing atm.

No actual skills.

No time for focused learning, to busy working or spending what time I can with my 4yr old...

He's only this young once...

Cars don't last forever putting 100+miles a day on em...

Been thinking about what I can make and sell on nostr....

Fiat land hasn't worked for me. Time to switch it up.

🫂💜

I feel this so much too, and I also have to commute 100+ miles a day just to get to and from my job.

Anything you do for your child or yourself could be a small business you operate out of your home.

You do not need to work for someone else in a "traditional job" to make money.

Do laundry? Start a laundry service in your neighborhood.

Bake bread? Start a micro bakery and take online orders.

Cook? Offer meal prep services or sell homemade, ready-to-eat dinners to busy neighbors.

Clean your home? Start a home organization or decluttering service, helping others tidy up their spaces.

Garden? Grow and sell herbs, veggies, or flowers locally, or offer small-scale landscaping.

Good with kids? Run a small in-home daycare or after-school tutoring service for neighborhood kids.

Pet lover? Start a pet-sitting or dog-walking service.

Good with tech? Offer basic support for setting up devices, troubleshooting, or teaching others how to use apps and software.

What are you good at? Not good at anything? Practice to learn how to do stuff and find what is fun for you. Make that how you make money.

“Good with tech? Offer basic support for setting up devices, troubleshooting, or teaching others how to use apps and software.”

The problem is finding paying customers!

Well first you need to figure out your offerings and branding and then market yourself. It's still a business and you got a hustle, but it would be all yours. You'd make up all the rules. It's worth the work.

Hard hard work!

AI can help with so much. And anyone can do it. What's hard is being stuck doing a boring job. This would be challenging but fun.

Humans want to work, none of us are actually lazy.

We've been manipulated to think we hate working, when really it's the kind of work that matters.

When you build things, or grow food, or do anything that has a real measurable benefit to society, it's rewarding.

https://youtu.be/HFTpJdDuwf8?si=3fDeAMAy5kLltdP6

True, I work my butt off of its something that matters to be personally, if it's not o don't and often just tune out training and stuff.

A division of labour exists. When I don't need to wake up at 5 to go water my crops, I have time to do what I can do.

This is Adam Smith level stuff though, helps put why markets and economics exist in the first place

Hey, it's totally valid to feel that way about traditional jobs! It's not necessarily selfish or lazy to want more from your work life than just making someone else rich. Lots of people feel the same way, especially when they're young and full of potential.

It sounds like you value autonomy and purpose, which is awesome. Maybe you could explore different types of work that align with your values. Have you thought about freelancing, starting your own business, or finding a job in a field you're passionate about, even if it's not super niche?

Experimenting with different things might help you discover what you truly enjoy. Don't be afraid to try new hobbies, take online courses, or volunteer in areas that interest you. You might stumble upon something that sparks your passion and leads you to a fulfilling career path.

And hey, college isn't the only way to gain skills and knowledge. There are tons of online resources, workshops, and apprenticeships that can help you develop valuable expertise without racking up debt.

Just keep exploring, stay open-minded, and trust that you'll find something that resonates with you. You've got this!

Really appreciate that! I feel like this is what I need to do, I hate waking up to work right now, don't want to do that forever.

It's how I live my life. The only most valuable commodity, in finite, reducing supply is Time.

Everything goes to zero against it, even time itself.

Also, when you see how poor people really are, I'm talking abject poverty levels, you realise how far you can drop and still be 'alive'.

I literally quit good paying 9- 5 in corporate finance, because unlike my friends, I didn't want to loose all my hair by the age of 30 either.

You do you man, but just keep death at the forefront of your mind, it helps put everything you do in perspective. (Maybe that's just stoicism though)

I love your counsel . Never thought about the level of poverty you could drop to and still survive.

Worth thinking about to take back your time.

Well it's good to reminds yourself that someone is looking for a meal right now while you're trying to get Netflix to work.

Empathy and perspective adds a lot, and you don't need much but money let's you have status in society. No one considers the Poor's opinion.

The way money is debasing and at the same time prices are up on goods and services. We will soon be joining the poverty line. Theft under the guise of inflation and tax. At the same time they cut off exits to hard money like gold, silver and bitcoin and they think they've got you.

That's why we're here on Nostr. Witnessing developers creating all kinds of apps and software to skirt all the chokepoints government bureaucrats throw our way.

So now they want to come after the developers. One is forced down the road to RIDICULOUS plugging up the holes, while the other simply surveys the attack vectors and bangs the holes bigger.

Ridicule creates violence. Developers will be called TERRORISTS who create hate speech. Where have we heard that before? One prefers to hide behind laws that cater to the rich. The other strangles them with their very same laws.

No. I do not empathize, sympathize or celebrate the state of poverty. A choice has been made. I AM VICTIM. I AM NOT VICTIM.

Also, college isn't a waste of time. Sure you can go to hustler's university on YouTube, but real quality education extends past the textbooks.

If you can afford it, do it. Keep learning, keep improving the skillset.

Talk to rich people or businesses, find their pains, select a list that you could solve, from that, select another list you would be obsessively passionate about and then create the solution.

On a practical level, experimenting with skills gives you options and builds independence. On a spiritual level, humans are wired for connection and collaboration — because meaning does not come only from what you do, but from what you share with your community.

In life, you can either pursue your own idealized potential or embrace the potential that life places before you. Both paths require mistakes, setbacks, and the courage to rise again — and that journey is the ultimate test of faith.

Without confronting and overcoming our own fears and convictions, we can never experience life in its fullness. Fear of the unknown is not weakness — it is human. Yet it also stands as the gateway to growth, transformation, and fulfillment.

To take on the role of a traditional wife or husband is perhaps the greatest testament to your community — a declaration that you are ready to lead, to give fully, to set aside ego, and to remain humble in the face of such a vast Universe. Any man or woman who raises a child is not only an ambassador of humanity, but also a steward of life itself.

What is a traditional job?

I went to uni to get an architecture degree, halfway I realized I won't learn anything serious so I started to work full time in 3rd year. By the time I finished uni I was doing my own designs under my supervisors, got fully independent at 32.

But I am not doing just what my traditional(?) degree was supposed to prepare me for. I am an architect designing and also building buildings while also doing design, consultation worldwide.

I have a mission to design and build healthy and durable buildings with natural materials but it took me 12 years to get where I am today and still figuring out a lot of things on my own - because as I see the world is actually favoring traditional jobs anymore.

It’s not selfish to reject a system designed to drain you. It’s survival.

You're in an interesting place. I kinda wish I had slowed down and taken in the options more at your age rather than rushing into a job.

The world has so many more options nowadays, so many that never even existed when I was growing up so it was hard to dream beyon taking on the best day job you could get. There was no idea of 'escaping the 9-5 grind'.

I think for most people a job is still the best way to go. You can learn skills and build a side hustle that can generate extra income if you decide. I've met people who are very good at thier work and they just accumulate a lot of bitcoin with thier surplus funds.

Unless you have a really good business idea, this would seem to be a good way to go.

Fwiw

When you find what it is. You will know. Passion is not enough. I note in your bio you like exploring open source tech. Have you tried bitchat using bluetooth mesh.

All sorts of rules and regulations are flying towards shutting us down, from strangling BTC to KYC the internet.

Bitchat communities are going to be important .And this is possible WITHOUT the internet.

I've decided to do the same in my community . But because google and android are coming after the developers - for the last two weeks I've been studying various phones. I've shortlisted two - a pixel model with a graphene OS or a Linux ph that is yet to launch.

Creating this as a skillset , learning the steps involved and work towards creating a network means you've taken back your time to help someone exit the rat wheel.

Elon Musk said it best - Do something useful.