there is no guarantee at all, "-" tag tries to go against one of nostr's strengths which is censorship resistance so it shouldnt be relied on.

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So there are no “pay 2 read” relays? Only “pay 2 post” right?

So business models will have to account for that

there are "pay 2 read" relays, but putting posts behind a paywall is the tricky part of it. the true value you're paying for in that kind of relay is the curation and anything else they may offer

https://zapbox.fiatjaf.com/ is kind of pay2read.

If someone is browsing your relay directly instead of just specific notes or specific pubkeys you can also serve ads by just hosting them as notes.

There is no guarantee of anything anywhere, much less on the internet. Most good faith relays will probably respect "-" (and currently all the big ones do), but "piracy" exists and I'm not even saying that's a bad thing.

I don't believe in "intellectual property" myself, but "-" is not (only) for preventing copy, it's for making intentions explicit and keeping content and boundaries organized, which benefits everybody most of the time.

i get that, but i feel like nostr is one of the last options you would consider to host your paywalled content considering how the portability of data seems to be designed at its core.

and eventually the goal is to have more small relays and less big ones in favor of the outbox model, so in this sense i think the decision of taking "-" into account will be for users to make, not big brother relays.

so yeah i don't know if most people will respect "-", it seems like its never been easier to relay signed data though.

Yeah there’s a lot of open questions. Given certain limitations, maybe publications should be just a profile, and maybe they need a new note type that allows for “multi-sig” notes to include the authors and editors.

Or maybe publications see the “anti-censorship” angle as a benefit and just adjust their monetization models accordingly. Either way it needs exploring with real publications with existing business models.