I just like my privacy and security too much. Using some apple products myself but would never touch the iphone. Graphene on latest pixel is perfect.

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I can respect that, but if you’ve never used an iPhone, how do you know how secure it is?

I suppose you could argue which is more secure, graphene or iOS and while most people would say graphene, they’re not willing to make all of the compromises needed in order to use it.

iOS is good enough for most people straight out of the box, you don’t need to flash anything.