Glad to see you on nostr. The protocol.

Did twitter really have plans to abandon a centralised server and become protocol driven with decentralised relays?

This is my first time hearing about it.

There was atleast a decade of Twitter before Elon.

Were these plans in the making for a whole decade and then blame elon for not doing it within a year?

No disrespect, just honest questions here in the spirit of authentic journalism...

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Yep, but we tried to do it on top of XMPP…. This was back in 2007 and 2008! Ages ago. Honestly a lot of decentralized tech needed to be developed in order for it to work. We were too early.

https://www.slideshare.net/blaine

https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/

http://scripting.com/stories/2008/01/21/xmppAsTheBasisForInteropIn.html

https://xmpp.org/2008/09/xmpp-roundup-1/

Thank you I had no idea. Although I was using XMPP before twitter existed!

I still find it to be the "BEST" messaging protocol in terms of flexibility, anonymity, privacy, security, etc...

XMPP is lightweight enough to run on the tiniest device. But supports messages and voice/video calls.

It is annoying with multiple devices on the same XMPP address - logs are split/duplicated between devices, and it is unclear which device will notify you of a new message or call.

I was on twitter through XMPP until they cut off anyone without a twitter account. Facebook was the same thing. They talked a protocol driven game ("like email"), then cut me off.

Matrix is really good at the message store on server - but we're talking 2G+ ram VM for the server and 40g+ disk.

Matrix is way too chatty over the wire for me to call it private, and has a history of being insecure too in some cases.

XMPP was da-bomb back in the day when we thought computers only could talk XML. json was a revolution.

I am not a tech guy, haven‘t heard of XMPP before but it sounds really good, lightweight and flexible, also usable for Voice and Video posts. Do you think #Nostr is the better protocoll in the end though? Why? Curious…

they are very similar in a way.

but XMPP is direct messaging focused while nostr is "social media" focused.

Thanks for clarifying. Is CMPP being focused the reason why it didn‘t work for Twitter? Was Nostr developed afterwards then, not available back then?

yes XMPP has been around for over a decade if not much longer.

not sure about the reasons of why it didnt work, but yes nostr came much later.

Thanks! Learned something 🤝🏻