What ever happened to the nostr Wikipedia alternative?
Obviously it suffers the same initial problem of network effect, but it seems to be an online conversation again.
Discussion
I don't think Elon should be launching this lol. Far far too divisive a figure for it to work.
That was it. Is it still actively worked on?
Does anyone use it?
#asknostr
im going to say no and most likely no. i never see anyone talking about it.
Fiatjaf destroyed it by switching it from markdown to some shit called "asciidoc"
He also completely ignored me asking him not to do this when I was by far the most active contributor (hundreds of wiki entries were mine when it first reached 1000 wikis)
The wiki is one of the most important things Nostr has to offer to the world and Markdown is not a solid foundation for that. Markdown is garbage of the highest form.
I thought Asciidoc was going to be a solid foundation, but I'm more and more convinced it isn't either.
What do you think about switching to https://djot.net/?
this is coming from the pandoc guy so must be good 👀
It seems to fix all the problems I had with Markdown (the unnecessary complexity and ambiguity) and a ton of other problems I had no idea about, looks pretty good.
I think I read somewhere that his Djot parser is 8x faster than his Markdown parser.
Is it geographically neutral like markdown?
Is it automatically compatible with a large percentage of wikipedia articles like wikitext?
Is there some other advantage you pretend would make up for the flaw of missing both points above?
Yes, it is "geographically neutral", I don't know why you're so attached to this.
No, nothing is compatible with Wikipedia articles, not even Wikipedia itself. Wikitext is not a standard, it's not a format, it's a language, wikitext is hell. The only way to parse Wikipedia articles "correctly" is by using the same parser they use which is some cursed mix of JavaScript and PHP.
Markdown is not garbage and we need wikitext if we're not going back to markdown
I pretty much lost interest when the switch to asciidoc happened and there were already more people harassing me with bullshit than trying to help me get anything fixed
No users, no product....
wikipedia is just the official version of the HIStory
its funny that most of the stuff is final
all "questions" answered
people live out there believing the whole shit
If he allowed Grok to directly learn from people and without supervised fine tuning or preference optimization with BS, Grok would be a lot better. But since Grok is getting worse and it is a black box to the outsiders, the idea that it should be source of truth is pretty dangerous.
He shows the problem, offers his AI as the solution but who is deciding what goes into that AI? Is anybody measuring these things? I will claim it is detached from combined opinion on X (because I am measuring things). xAI team is not learning from popular accounts on X or they are not properly giving weight to popular accounts on X.
An example of directly learning from a social media is my Nostr LLM. I plan to update it with newer notes and base upon better models. But it is not perfect because Nostr content is not enough to completely change opinions of a model in a lot of domains (yet). It will get better though over time.
* BS: belief system