Invoking logical fallacies and not elaborating on what you believe they are is very reddit behavior. No borders no nations is a very reddit stance. Morality and niceness policing is pretty reddit.

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i did but you ignored it. you were claiming things i never said and moved definitions around. it is hard to argue like that. we are going around in a circle and as i said, i don't want or need to convince you of anything

it is a little bit ironic that you use "reddit behavior" and "reddit stance", putting a whole lot of people in a single group. again creating a we vs them, needing a bogeyman. we are all human, no need for division

It's weird that you're saying that I'm putting people in an us vs them thing. It's like you're saying you're not part of a group that puts people in an us vs them thing which is an us vs them thing.

that is a strawman, you're implying things i never said

I'm not implying anything. You just said "putting a whole lot of people in a single group. again creating a we vs them"

And you're simultaneously saying "we are all human, no need for division"

Do you believe you don't do this? Do you put people into groups and make it we vs them?

Cause you just did.

According to your logic. I'm the type of person that puts people in groups and you are not. Unless of course you're saying you're a hypocrite?

huh? groups, plural. with one group there is no we vs them...

Are you a part of a group that doesn't group people yes or no?

Am I a part of a group that groups people yes or no?

we are turning in circles. same answer i have about borders. it doesn't help or add to my life. you are a human being. i am a human being. i don't put people in groups, for what? it doesn't help, it just divides... i repat myself again... it was even a mistake of mine saying we humans are a group, i don't see it like that, what does it matter? it doesn't, for me. you can use groups, put people in groups, draw borders. if you think it helps and enriches your life, do it, i am happy for you if it helps you

Yes but you put me in a group of people that puts people in groups. You did that. You do put people in groups. At least you did. That's why you're not answering the question and trying to find your way out of it. And you're saying "I'm not like that and you are" thus creating a us (non grouper people) vs them (people who group).

Like you can't just magically say you didn't do that. You did.

It's also human (oh I know we aren't supposed to group people now) nature.

Again this is exactly like you seeing yourself above the "superstition of authority."

You're playing pretend and then ridiculing others for not going along with your fantasyland nonsense.

To pretend as though we shouldn't be grouping people for one reason or another is asking to ignore biology, psychology, and culture.

You can "not see it like that" all you want. I can close my eyes and pretend I live in Disneyland too. It doesn't make it reality.

If humans aren't a group what are they? What's a species? Isn't that a grouping? Hmmm.

What's a race? Isn't that a grouping?

Do you just pick random words to take issue with for arbitrary reasons?

i said i was wrong. you just picking at me at this point. of course we use words to group things and put labels on it. what i meant to say is, that in certain situations it is needed and helpful. but in certain situations it doesn't help at all and divides us and creates an enemy image. and yes, these situations are arbitrary again

not sure it helps to tell you again: i have no intend to convince you of anything. i never mentioned anything from you shouldn't put people into groups. i just wanted to say that i don't find it useful to draw a line, call it border and every person on the other side is somehow so much different than i am. from my point of view it is arbitrary. nothing more. you can think whatever you want... i repeated that multiple times now...

Hey guys, this is nostr, not X

Are you saying these types of topics are off the table here?

Not really. I just had the feeling that I was scrolling on Musk's platform again. Sorry about that. Please follow on.

What I like most of nostr, more than the general subject, is the general atmosphere.