Please, listen to the good doctor once again, carefully; although it's a short clip, he said it clearly.

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I did listen to it. You both claim that the fingerprints of Big Food are all over the new guidelines and he mentions meat and dairy industries.

So you consider meat and dairy "Big Food?"

Maybe we just have different definitions of corporate food. For me it's factory food made by multinational corporations like the one above.

Meat and dairy are the biggest part of Big Food. Its ingredients are in almost any product. Read the labels. Most health problems, most diseases that people have, are caused by animal products.

Meat and dairy products, among many other products, are patented. On the other hand, they still can't patent fruits and vegetables. At least not until they change their DNA, which they push hard to do.