im not the one virtue signaling about dont trust verify

It is very easy to be a consumer and spectator in this world. The fiat system encourages it. Demands it even.

The broader point is WL has generally been good actors trying to move open systems bitcoin and nostr forward. They deserve some respect and grace for that and dragging them over perceived flaws in their model is not cool. Not helpful. And also probably not accurate.

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WE ARE NOT CONSUMERS OR SPECTATORS.

WE ARE ARTISTS, CODERS, AND PRODUCERS.

WE HAVE BEEN FULLY DECENTRALIZED MUSICIANS SINCE XMAS EVE 2021.

MANY OF US HAVE EMBRACED A V4V LIFESTYLE FOR OVER A DECADE.

But since you seem hellbent on me dragging this company, here:

Wavlake is the Spotify of Nostr and Bitcoin protocols and they have ALREADY RUGPULLED a Russian music professor because of the 2022 sanctions imposed.

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Generally, some, perceived, probably not accurate…

Stand up to these puritanical purity testing consumer jihad hobbyists Church of the Righteous Obscurity arm chair quarterback ummm actually born to suffer joy sucking women hating “clearly they don’t understand I pee” hurting artists robbing musicians the chance to pay their bills with hundreds of thousands of dollars cultist scum and mean it!

These people need to be stopped

when you run code

that you did not write

guess what? Youre a consumer

also bet you did not even check the checksum on your v4v software Miss "We Don't Trust We Verify"

drop the LARP

RE Sanctions: do a five second thought experiment and think about whether you wanna risk jail time for a sanctioned Russian artist. I will bet everything you are not.

The only LARP here is you, bud. Put up or shut up. What have YOU done for musicians who want to earn better money for their art, and what in the world has Wavlake done for YOU?

ALL FILES ARE CHECKSUMMED. It's literally one of the steps laid out in my node building tutorial.

As DeMu artists, the code is our own. Our art is self-hosted on our own websites, on our own RSS feeds, playable on auditable FOSS apps. Don't like something? Fork it. Rebuild it.

And I've thought a long time about ALL of this which is why I will continue telling artists to emancipate themselves from the music industry shackles by SELF-HOSTING.

BITCOIN DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION. It's peer to peer, while Wavlake is peer to some queer over here. Sanctions have no power over these protocols and rugpulling is UNFORGIVABLE and SHOULD BE PUBLICLY SHAMED.

I gotta ask why do you care more about a corporation than your peers, dude? Are you an LLM?

"And also probably not accurate."

Maybe before you jump in to defend something you might want to do the research to find out whether the criticisms have merit.

I am not a "consumer", nor a "spectator" in this "world" I am an active participant and have helped generate millions of sats for artists over the past 90 episodes of LT. Many of which are WL artists.

I don't hate on WL anymore. I've come to realize that their way is just a different way of doing things. For me, their way doesn't align with my core values.

It doesn't mean that they're bad or evil, but caveat emptor, If one is going to use their services (or anyone else's) then is just makes sense to know how it works and learn about the alternatives.

Some methods are more liberty oriented than others.

Lots of great music shows out here putting in countless hours making shows so people can hear this great music and support the artists.

I don't get this space to be honest. What's the goal of #V4V music on Nostr?