But it’s not a given. Most of the men in our thing are unmarried, terminally-online loners. They hold no credentials and have no careers, no important position in society. They could disappear tomorrow and nobody would notice. We’re underdogs for a reason.

It’s extremely important to understand that this is a bottom-up movement, which is to say we’re not deriving any power from institutional support from above. Talking about statecraft at this point is like thinking one’s experience playing Europa Universalis IV qualifies them to run a country, when they can’t obtain dentistry. We are working with extremely flawed people. We are working with men who were systematically destroyed before they were even adults, before they were men.

You want to move things forward? You’re just going to have to get into the weeds on this front. The “wider view” as you put it at this point is a total waste of time. It’s a LARP and nothing more.