How does Ledger know how much bitcoin their devices secure? 🤔🤔🤔

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Xpubs on ledger live probably

That's a big privacy yikes.

Oh yeah definitely

But consider that anyone who’s using a company node to pull balances likely can face the same risk

If you’re not pulling balances from your own node you are trusting someone else with your privacy (to an extent, there is nuance of course)

privacy (or security) with a Ledger? That's funny.

They know that?

They just said on stage that their devices secure over 20% of all bitcoin.

Glad I don’t user their products 😂

That is very weird…

And how is the conference so far?

"secure"???

😂

Cause their apps sending it to them probably.

🤮

Or maybe they know the address of each device so they can monitor them?

Even worse.

Yeah, I know.

How do you know they know?

🤣

Just in case you aren’t put off enough by this company that I think has now lost it.

They just told all of their customers that their privacy is most likely being violated live on stage. Congratulations to Coldcard, Bitkey, and Jade.

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What an unbelievable self own 🤣🤣🤣

I mean, it IS a public ledger... lol

It's a transparent ledger.

Ledger Live queries their servers.

... seriously.

:p

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It's only a question of time before they sign off on a malicious firmware update and 20% of all Bitcoin is at risk of going off the market 🤣