Lyn, slightly off-topic but also still in line here with 'outside use cases' for Nostr (same for you Max)

What are you TLDR thoughts on health-related apps/data via Nostr?

Main use case imo is individuals potential to actually hold their own health data, let alone being signed events (bonus).

Is this a worthy pursuit for Nostr devs?

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Is there a specific article you can share on the details?

I do like users owning their own data, of course. I know Nostr has some privacy issues, but I assume affixing things to a private key can be workable.

My guess is the market would be smallish for a while. If people are dying of cancer they care less about privacy and more about treatment. And people I know who are health-hackers tend to like to broadcast their metrics most of the time, if anything, or otherwise aren’t way into privacy.

So I like the option. I think marketing with a focus on self-ownership is hard.

I had to find a long form note done by the Nosfabrica team, its a good overview of what is in the hivemind rn

I tend to agree with your thoughts; users just don't care enough for data ownership to actually move the needle; especially in a life or death scenario.

It brings me back to the same point imo in all of our tech; UI/UX is most important to 99% of users. Not the underlying tech.

Here's the long form note👇

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I think it's cool. But my hunch is that we're early in the adoption cycle for something like that to take off. Same goes for almost any normal end user app.

For this next adoption phase, I'm looking for things that are adjacent to Bitcoin (which is the clear focus of our early adopters today) or that simply cannot be done elsewhere. A BTC example would be localbitcoins on Nostr - I'm really surprised this hasn't happened yet at more scale (with a shared order book among many apps). Other examples that leverage BTC and can't be done elsewhere might be Nostr based prediction markets with lightning payments. Examples of things that just can't be done elsewhere probably focus on autonomous AI - ie creating agents that can create/consume data and engage in commerce amongst themselves

Man, similar thing I just said to Lyn; the UI/UX is such a high priority I think we miss that a lot building bleeding edge tech.

Agreed and how we don't have a localbitcoins with Nostr yet (Where39 extension on LNBits is cool).

Great thoughts to share, thank you .

I'd agree; I think the real leverage we can obtain is building the things that cannot be done without Bitcoin/Lightning/ecash/Nostr/etc.

Pear & holepunch really peaks my interest, but still so early.

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