What is freedom of movement? Is that not property rights? If you "move" onto my property, do I not have a right to bar your movement? If you are eluding to immigration. The problem is "public" land not the movement aspect. There is no such thing as public land. There is owned, and unowned land. By the very existence of public land, it creates conflicts of property rights in which there is no true owner. Property rights are the only rights that exist.
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I agree with all sentiments here, but still have to shave off some edges. If all land is owned and ownership means excluding movement on your land, then how do you move anywhere off your land? Do we become prisoners of our property? Do we put tolls on every road?
I don't want tolls on every road. I also reject the concept of public property. If there must be public property, such as roads, then movement can't be controlled on it.
Take the border with Mexico, for example. If crossing the border is controlled, then the controller can decide one day that Americans can't leave. The same infrastructure works both ways. If I had perfect property rights, but couldn't move across that border, then selling my property and leaving is not an option, which is equivalent to having no property rights.
I want perfect property rights AND the freedom to leave. Compromising on either end effectively makes us prisoners.
But but bbbbbbut... !!! We have to control the immigration! No we don't. There are more options than what's presented. If we abolish minimum wages, then there would be no incentive to violate the law by hiring non citizens ; millions of Americans who can't get hired would get hired. Did you know American companies have billboards all over Latin America telling them to come here? That detail was conveniently left out of the narrative.
The above principle is why bitcoin is amazing. It upholds full property rights because its impossible to restrict its movement.
OFAC compliant blocks would disagree with "impossible".
I've been having ideas about this wall to keep " them" out as a way to keep us in.
Great post!
Again, the way to dismantle a structure is to take the pieces down from the top until you get to the foundation. If you pull the foundation, you have a violent destruction. Borders are the foundation of a country. The delineation of one place or another. You start with superfluous social concepts like socialized welfare, wage controls, and market regulation. Once everything is a voluntary socially, then by definition public land disappears and borders don't get abolished but privatized.
As far as: how wouldn't we be trapped on our own property? Natural cooperation. It is not economically feasible to own easement land (15 foot wide land strips between allotments) So, people will naturally sell these portions to the most economic actor available, a road maintainer. They would charge all interested parties for repair or liability in the case of intentional damage. Tolls are one option for high cost, large, multi-lane, highways but that's a cost users of a road would have to bear. (By the way, who will build the roads? Is a crazy rebuttal in 2025)
The appropriate order of the destruction of the state is hotly debated but no one with a coherent rationale has ever explained why if the collapse of the state isn't instant, that borders should be removed first. In the method of stopping a fight, you put down your weapons and negotiate before removing your armor.
Well, we have the same goals, at least. Whatever gets us there...
I don't think borders are the foundation of a country. Or, a good country, rather. Let's say "state" - a country is a self similar geographical area. The foundation of the North Korean state is its borders - they're trapped in there. A better foundation would be community. The best foundation is voluntary community. Voluntary community is capitalism. Involuntary community is communism. There's nothing voluntary about borders.
My original note was meant to be more abstract than this. Bitcoin offers perfect property rights in Bitcoin only. But if you want to buy something without being robbed by the state, then you need private and secure delivery methods. I think the biggest thing we could do to move to a stateless society, other than using bitcoin, is to develop discreet logistics. Liberating the movement of goods will go a long way towards liberating people.
I dunno. The border is what delineates my property from yours. Where my rights end and yours begin. I think that's pretty foundational to any organization, or individual. The voluntary nature predicating the border's establishment is what makes it just or unjust.
Regardless we do have the same goals. I am more a fan of slowly making the state obsolete over violent revolution. And in my estimation no sovereign control over the state's borders would bring a revolution very quickly. Bitcoin is the way to move incentives toward freedom and we are well on our way.🫡