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By what definition are those 15 minute cities? You're retroactively applying a concept that has only recently begun being introduced.

In my experience, public transport in London is far from excellent. Compared to who? I've been here over 15 years.

Most Londoners living within zone 1-2 don't have a need for cars, what about the rest? Most people I know own cars. Every single house has a least one car in the driveway once you get outside of the center.

15 minute cities won't reduce traffic. They will reduce your ability to move around though.

The reason why we are against such things, is because once they are introduced somewhere, they precedent is set, and more restrictions will be brought in under the guise of protecting you and saving the environment.
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Ian "nostr.naut.social" D 2y ago

On public transport, London is amazing compared to where I grew up.

Want to go somewhere? Buses ranged from every half hour to every two weeks (I kid you not).

After 7pm? You're walking home.

Got a GF 14 miles away? You're cycling there and back. (I'd have gotten seriously fit if that one had lasted!)

Moves to London, Edgeware, top of Northern Line. Station is ten mins walk. I had a car, because my weekends were away, but it parked up on the street and didn't move. OK, it did once. I naively figured that the North and South Circulars were some kind of speedy road that would enable a quick trip to South London. Didn't make that mistake twice :-)

Even now, I drive to Hillingdon, park, get the tube. 1-2 changes and maybe a bus, I'm anywhere I need to be.

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Sovereign Being 2y ago

You've just made a solid case for car ownership.

Any big city will have better public transport than a small town. This isn't anything novel.

All those travel issues with public transport in small towns are non-issues if you have a car.

I'm can't support the idea of forcing people to rely on expensive and inefficient transport systems because of a fictional problem, but creating more problems and curbing movement.