Actually if u look into history , it worked always well, but everytime "good" states took control of that area bcs of power.
here good examples- my favorite is medieval iceland and "non" wild west, but also that one from Italia is rly interesting bcs of that coffe leaf marker.
https://mises.org/library/medieval-iceland-and-absence-government
https://mises.org/library/not-so-wild-wild-west
https://mises.org/power-market/republic-cospaia-anarchist-renaissance-city
Humans have an innately hierarchical nature, but who says we have to unite under some "wannabe" big daddy who casually devalues money, has a monopoly on violence (police, military), and yet has a monopoly on many political functions.
And as we can see, the monopoly on politics on the medieval island played a major role in why it fell apart. ("Politicians" began to make decisions in their favor to the detriment of all).
Because as we see from modern times of capitalist democracy, politicians don't like to make unpopular decisions because it will cost them votes. So populism becomes a winning strategy.
I think we will gradually get to a minarchy and then it could slide down to AnCap.
It's a multi-generational run, but I really think, for example, market ancap Europe would be better off than capitalist America in some random hdp calculation.
At the end of the day, at some point our past generations had to get rid of kings, slavers, dictators and usorpators.
Have a great day guys here in thread and btw, try to read that mises articles a attached here if u got some free time to spend, it is rly interesting, trusssttt.
If I have time I will, thanks!
That first article is excellent until it states that having a private police force would be a better system because "How can a firm maximize profit without fulfilling the consumers' demands?"
You need only look at the Ecorps we have today to see how profits are made without fulfilling consumers' demands. They think the best way to fulfill them is by creating them in the first place and profit from that indirectly.
Other than that the article is on point.
Oh maybe i just dont get u for the first time, u meaned it like that is a possible other way to fulfilling demans then a private forces?
I get you now, but here in my Czech Republic it kinda sucks with Police under a monopol of state.
They are starting to be less relevant as a time flies and ppls are smarter and smarter and only poor low minded ppls are devalued in this system, while in a free market system there would certainly be a company that would try to treat these people differently and both sides would still win. Win win
Sure, I forgot to add a very important footnote:
Fuck the police in general.
It works with modern ecorps like this bcs costumers doesn’t have any power to push them.
But in the world of market, i thing there would be a lot more competition and customers will have more opportunities for the punishing a arbiter than does fulfills his promises of costumers.
Did were on Iceland some “Iceland official police”?
No, bcs they don’t needed it, as a article says
“How were people held accountable if they did commit a crime? In much the same way as the current United States civil court system works today. Criminals were forced to pay fines. These fines did not go to the state, but were restitution. If the criminal could not pay the fine imposed on him, then he could go to his godord or a group of family and friends, or some other alliance, and have them pay the fine for him, or if no one would represent him, he could work the fine off via slavery. The poor were at no disadvantage. The poor could sell their right to justice to someone, such as a chieftain or another respected peer, who could collect or make right upon the victim.”
"punishing a arbiter than does not fulfills his promises to the costumers"
At some point , i thing #Nostr protocol could be part of this slow evolution, but guys programmers, we fucking hella need an edit on Nostr :D I would prefer that facebook editio, where u can see the original post and then a edited version.
A lot of NiPs need to come :D
I believe even today police officers in Iceland do not carry guns at all because there is no need. But privatising police forces do not automatically make them more accountable and/or reliable. The police force as an institution is probably useful to society in whatever form it's constructed but on the street in practise the police are harmful probably in the major part of the world, no matter if they are private or fiat police.
Thats a good point!
Don't you think this is an inherent flaw in ancap? People want order and authority, ancap creates a vacuum, and if that necessarily results in centralized authority being established, ancap isn't stable.
In ancap system autority can be marker and “bigplayers”.
And about that order, i did not see a order in these systems that are aplied right now.
If you would be allowed to do what u want unleash your not hurting anyone(principle of nonaggression).
So maybe it will be bigger order then now, bcs normal casual people will be allowed to just spend and enjoy their lives and have order in their perspective and “bigplayers” will be allowed to enjoy their game a lot more too.
Market fixes all.
Basic question like how would be roads builded are too much easy to answer, but more complex question like what about Real estate cadastre when u dont have “big brother” are harder to explain, but possible.
Haha when you look at it closely, i actually think oppsite of that what u wrote sirr.
I think that ancap or some similar type of system would pop out that vacuum we life in right now🤯
Hellya, I love nostr a lot more now than before this ancap thread, there is a lot of better discussion then on old Twitter.
I got in 89% mocked all the time on tw when I mentioned a ancap.
