Wine and whiskey both contain alcohol.

But your body does not respond to them the same way.

From a health perspective, here is what actually matters🍷🥃🧵

What They’re Made From

Whiskey starts with fermented grains like corn, rye, wheat, or barley.

Different styles use different blends. Bourbon is mostly corn. Scotch is malted barley. Rye and Irish whiskey follow their own rules.

Once distilled, those differences mostly disappear.

Distillation strips away nearly everything except ethanol and water.

Red Wine starts with grapes and grapes naturally contain compounds that survive fermentation and end up in your glass. These include polyphenols, which have been studied for their ability to reduce inflammation, support blood vessels, and protect cells from oxidative stress.

Barrel Aging

Both wine and whiskey usually spend time in oak.

Whiskey can age for decades. Wine typically ages for a few years.

Barrel aging affects taste. It does not affect how your body processes the alcohol.

Sugar and Blood Sugar

Alcohol interferes with your liver’s ability to regulate blood sugar.

That is why drinking on an empty stomach can leave you shaky or foggy.

This effect is made worse when alcohol is paired with sugar.

Whiskey is often mixed with soda, syrup, or bottled cocktail blends and even unflavored whiskeys may contain added sugar or glycerin to smooth the taste. This spikes your blood sugar and crashes it fast.

To avoid the worst affects of whiskey:

- Skip flavored whiskeys and sweet mixers

- Look for "straight" or "bottled in bond" on the label

- Drink it neat or with water

Dry red wine has less than one gram of sugar per glass.

It will only produce a small rise with less of a crash.

Additives

There is no ingredients list required for wine or whiskey in the United States.

When you feel bad after drinking, that lack of transparency makes it hard to know what you are reacting to.

Wine can include Mega Purple, acidity regulators, gums, and excessive sulfites.

Whiskey can include caramel coloring, sugar, artificial flavorings, or texture enhancers like glycerol or glycol.

You cannot really avoid one single additive and ignore the rest.

These things tend to come together.

Tips to avoid them:

For wine, look for low-intervention producers. French and Italian bottles are often less manipulated and not hard to find.

For whiskey, get to know the producer if you can, but other than that, there's not much you can do.

Sourcing and Contaminants

Glyphosate has been found in many conventional wines, even some labeled organic.

Grapes are often heavily sprayed, and glyphosate is not routinely tested for.

Whiskey is distilled.

Distillation removes nearly all chemical residues, including glyphosate.

From a contamination standpoint, whiskey comes out ahead.

But it is not that hard to avoid glyphosate in wine.

My vineyard has never seen glyphosate.

The land has been farmed organically for over 100 years.

Tips:

Either verify that your producer has a similar commitment, or default to French or Italian wines where these chemicals are banned.

Whiskey gives you the downsides of alcohol, and very little else.

But at least you can drink it without a ton of sugar.

Red wine, especially low-intervention red, brings more to the table.

It retains polyphenols, organic acids, and fermentation byproducts.

It also contains quercetin, a compound that slows the breakdown of testosterone in your body.

If you are already drinking and want to choose the lesser of the evils, drink low-intervention red wine.

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Haha that didn't take long. Nice write up.

I write ever morning. Took a bit of time, but was a good next topic to hit

The issue with wine that I’ve never heard talked about is the plant defense compounds (tannins, oxalates, natural pesticides) that get transferred and distilled into higher concentrations in the final product.

Bruce Ames wrote a very interesting paper about naturally occurring pesticides and their high concentration in all plants, and of course nobody wants to acknowledge it. But edible plants are completely full of these carcinogenic compounds by the dozens. Grapes included.

I know from experience that if I drink a bottle of wine (even high quality wine) I do not feel good anymore and I suspect it is the distilled bolus of plant defense compounds I’ve ingested. Spirits do not have the same effect as essentially none of the plant material has made it through distillation.

will look into it.

when it comes to tannins, I've looked into it and thats not something to worry about. those defend agains oxygenation.

Grapes are also fruits which are meant to be eaten so they gotta be lower in a lot of the things youre worried about, but will give it a look

“Meant” is subjective and not a given.

It’s been argued quite convincingly that all modern fruits and vegetables are hyper-sweet, hyper-fleshy non-natural versions of something that once grew in the wild. I personally side with this rationale and believe that no modern selectively bred plant food is natural or is meant to be eaten by humans.

In the past (pre agriculture and selective breeding) fruits were much less sweet, much smaller and the seed/skin-to-flesh ration was drastically higher. These pre human intervention fruits were also only ripe for a few weeks a year, and humans would gorge on them to fatten for winter. They were never staples.

You’ll find that with almost all analysis of plant foods that the benefits are studied but the harmful elements are wholly ignored.

Plants do objectively contain many compounds that inhibit nutrient absorption (anti-nutrients) as well as contain many compounds that are inflammatory or otherwise harmful (oxalates, sugars, tannins, lectins and literally in some cases triple digit carcinogens in appreciable concentrations).

These facts makes me skeptical of any benefits from plants as food/drink and I think in most cases plant foods have a net negative effect on human physiology.

Word, I'll look into it.

are you dumping all wine into a bucket of making you feel bad or are you drinking low intervention wine?

Most wine is loaded with addititves that will make you feel like shit

I do not drink much wine but typically when I do it’s been in other countries. Italy, Argentina. It tasted much better than any wine I’ve had in the U.S. but I can’t confirm it wasn’t loaded with additives.

The wine you had in the US almost certainly was tho

What if I buy New Zealand or Italian wine in the U.S.? Will it still be fucked?

Great overview. I have had so many pleasant evenings with wine... Whisky 🥃.. well black outs and what not.. best avoided imo.

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Thanks brother

Cool this is interesting!! Thanks for sharing sir

Moonshiners is one of my all time favorite shows. Love the go do anything kind of attitude.

Great post!

My wife has always appreciated good wines more than whiskeys... but I loved starting my happy hours with a solid pour of 1792 whiskey... and Oban scotch for special occasions. But, looking fwd to enjoying some of your wine for upcoming special occasions.

Im a 30yr distilling (and brewing) professional. Been following you closely for awhile here and podcasts you've done. Im starting to think about following in your footsteps but in spirits. For now I could be your spirits consultant! Keep doing what youre doing. Lots of support out here for you.

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"Irish whiskey follow their own rules". Shocker there the irish following their own rules.