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LN is easier, because you can just use it.

I have xmr and want to buy a new phone anonymously? Go to alza, scan the code, click send.

Alza knows nothing about the payment.

With xmr: which swap service am I going to use to pay because xmr is not supported. Will the payment be sent before the expiry of the invoice? If not, how do I get a refund? I don't have the wallet of the target coin.

Practice beats theory 100% of the time.
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ede3d957... 4mo ago

Not sure if buying a surveillance device (phone) is of any value.

Many people and companies offer GrapheneOS directly for Monero. I bet it's even the biggest actual consumer product market we currently have.

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Juraj 4mo ago

Hello from my Pixel with GrapheneOS. Pay with lightning, same day anonymous delivery into a box on the street. I can do the three click install of Grapheneos myself, no need to pay (and trust) someone to do it for me. And no need to figure out anonymous international delivery. And I can also pay in restaurants, buy basically anything. The lightning network accepting merchant network is huge where I'm usually at.

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ede3d957... 4mo ago

Sounds fantastic. I am using LN myself. At the same time I know that Monero will protect most of my friends and family while LN won't do shit for them although it works for me. Time and knowledge is a scarce factor.