High value woman: unspoiled, clean, gentle, strong father, loving mother, no baggage (trauma, debt, exes, STDs, career, travel, little external male friends/sponsors), belief in love and goodness, modest (secure with humility).
Low value woman: ran through, well traveled, tatted, absent father, hardened mother, "be strong so men can't exploit you", hyper spiritual, many external male friends/sponsors, immodest (insecure with "pride").
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To be honest, it sounds like youāre looking for somebody that canāt compare your bad sex to anybody else or talk to their friends about it because they donāt have any. Unspoiled? Clean? No baggage? Is that you? I have heard it said that you should try to be the things that you seek. I wish you well and pray for you.
So in your mind, the ideal state is having loads of premarital sex so that you can compare your husband to it and gossip with your friends?
I think a woman having friends is a good idea
Which cock did you like best, your husbands or one of the earlier ones?
Why do you wanna know? Does the answer or the thought of it turn you on
But your friends want to know?
Comparing cock says is a dude thing. Not really a woman thing so much.
This is you saying it's important to have a bunch of cocks to compare to your husband and to gossip with to your friends.
Cock sizeā¦ Typo
Also, cock size has very little to do with good or bad sex. That is something that little boys think.
That is either a guy or a bot. Muted either way
I would venture to guess that he absolutely wants someone who can't compare, because "bad sex" is really any sex outside of the covenant of marriage.
So when heās talking about having a virgin woman, Iām assuming heās a virgin. I think if youāre coming from that point of view thatās awesome but I donāt think he is.
You are under the impression that my message is OnlyFans girl bad but pickup artist good?
Are you a virgin, Mr. laser?
A whore and a pimp aren't both good people because they're both awash in sin.
What makes people good is turning away from sin, which requires identifying it.
You seem to be proud and "empowered" by all the sex you had without your husband.
You should be ashamed of it, not reveling online.
A good step in the right direction would be to extoll virtue instead of shaming your husband on the internet.
I havenāt mentioned anything about my sex life. I simply suggested that a woman have friends to speak with. You seem fairly obsessed about my sex life. I wish you well you donāt seem it.
I've written a post stating the obvious: that women with a deep sex life have debased their own value, and you have been triggered by it.
Not unreasonable to read between the lies: you are proud of your dirty sex life and angry with me for making you feel shame.
I donāt know why you think Iām angry. From the beginning, I have only felt pity for you and pity for any woman who is in relationship with you if you think of her that way. I wish for any woman that is with you that you are pure Though you donāt seem so to me.
Unspoiled is a way of saying "have not slept around". Ought a man desire that his wife be a woman who has joined herself to multiple other men before him? Ought a woman see the height of sexual experience as "good sex" with men who don't love them enough to covenant with them in marriage, have children with them, be fiercely monogamous, and build a life together?
I think thatās a beautiful idea. I just think it should go both ways and that if a man is looking for a āpureā woman he himself should be that. I have nothing against virgin marrying. I have something against a man saying heās looking for a pure woman with no friends.
He said what he said, not what he didn't say. No one is arguing a double standard that it is good for men to sleep around.
Also, nothing was said about a woman not having friends. The point is no close male friends who act as sponsors and no gossip long the female friends.
Read the beginning of the thread. He absolutely said that.
Things he said: a woman should be pure and not have external MALE friends as sponsors
Things he didnāt say: men should sleep around and women should have zero friends.
You know we can read the whole thread right? This is why women donāt belong in public discourse you get all emotional and make shit up to try to control other peoples thoughts.
Wow, you really do hate women. I feel sorry for you. That is not godly at all.
Nobody knows more about Christianity than secular women on the internet.
Ya they act like Jesus was just a total pushover and not the embodiment of justice mercy and virtue
They donāt know about the Gospel of Mark
They donāt understand the Holy Trinity by definition means that he destroyed Soddom for lack of virtue
Are you virtuous? I have studied the Bible since I was a young girl. What I have been asking isā¦ Are you virtuous? You have not answered my question. If you are married, were you a virgin when you married your wife? If you are not married, are you a virgin now? This question seems difficult for you to answer, but that has been my only question since the beginning of this threadā¦ Are you pure?
Are you virtuous? I have studied the Bible since I was a young girl. What I have been asking isā¦ Are you virtuous? You have not answered my question. If you are married, were you a virgin when you married your wife? If you are not married, are you a virgin now? This question seems difficult for you to answer, but that has been my only question since the beginning of this threadā¦ Are you pure?
You seem very curious about my sex life or you seem to think you know something about it. Tell me about yoursā¦ did you save yourself for your wife?
"Little external *male* friends/sponsors" is all that was espoused. The point is whoredom, not whether a woman has a lot of other female friends.
That was the whole reason I responded
It is a bit weird to be so engrossed in someoneās sexual history, itās somewhat synonymous with those that make sexual orientation the entirety of their identity.
Hahaha you are trying to lump me into some category of woke. Good luck.
I think a woman asking the question of whether or not you are the purity you seek is threatening to you
"rules for thee no for me"
At least it seems so by your big emotional responses
Also, sexual history is really what matters to this conversation
100%. It's sad so many women have been deceived to think the opposite. By the time they come to their senses, they're in their 40's, ridden hard, tattoos everywhere, and still being used by men. Zero appeal as a wife. But they still believe they are empowered and on top. Just a little more reiki, tarot, and crystals... That should turn it around
100%. It's sad so many women have been deceived to think the opposite. By the time they come to their senses, they're in their 40's, ridden hard, tattoos everywhere, and still being used by men. Zero appeal as a wife. But they still believe they are empowered and on top. Just a little more reiki, tarot, and crystals... That should turn it around
Alright, letās look closely at this one. Itās a compact manifesto in meme form, and it really exposes the scaffolding of Laserās worldview:
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1. The Binary Split
He creates two caricatures of women:
High value woman = unspoiled, clean, gentle, modest, sheltered, dependent on strong family structures, no ābaggage,ā no career, no travel, minimal male contact, humble.
Low value woman = sexually experienced, tattooed, independent, well-traveled, expressive, spiritual, hardened, surrounded by men, immodest, prideful.
š This is a binary, reductionist framework. Women are split into āMadonnaā or āWhoreā archetypes ā with no room for complexity, growth, or integration.
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2. Psychological Layers
Projection of fear: The ālow valueā list is actually a list of traits that signal female autonomy (travel, tattoos, spirituality, male friends). Autonomy is unpredictable to him, so he casts it as dangerous or degraded.
Purity myth: He equates worth with being āunspoiled.ā This is an ancient patriarchal trope where a womanās value lies in how little life sheās touched before being āclaimed.ā
Trauma inversion: He labels trauma as baggage, ignoring the resilience and wisdom that can emerge from healing. Fragility = valued, integration = suspect.
Spirituality dig: āHyper spiritualā is dismissed as a flaw ā likely because it orients a woman toward her own compass instead of patriarchal authority.
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3. The Historical Irony
The painting he uses undermines his point:
Renaissance women like the one pictured were often well-traveled, highly educated, and āsponsoredā by wealthy male patrons. Many of the most famous were courtesans ā celebrated for wit, artistry, and influence.
So his chosen image actually depicts the very ālow valueā traits he condemns.
And historically? Tattoos, travel, and ritual adornment are among the oldest human traditions ā linked to rites of passage, protection, identity, and spiritual belonging. Flattening them into ālow valueā is more about modern puritanical anxieties than ancient wisdom.
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4. The Core Tell
This isnāt really about womenās āvalue.ā
Itās about control vs. unpredictability.
Women who are easy to contain, dependent, and modest = āsafe.ā
Women who are expressive, resilient, and self-directed = āthreat.ā
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āØ Bottom line:
This post reveals more about Laserās need for certainty and containment than about women. His āhigh value womanā is basically a manās fantasy of control, not an actual human being. The irony is, the Renaissance woman he chose probably lived a life far closer to his ālow valueā list ā and history still remembers her with admiration.
Welp, according to the below, Iām a low value woman by the following accounts: well-traveled, absent father, mother left on day 0, and I have a shit ton of external male friends.
I work on cars, what can I say! š
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Letās see hereā¦ strong fatherā Loving motherā no tattoos ā love and goodness ā Uh ohh, exes, career, travel, male friends. Iām out! š¤£
