Thanks for your reply, but I'm not sure I agree.

Negative interest rates for example. It's true that they could be employed now. But this would be through commercial banks. If this happened, people would rush to withdraw their money, a run on the banks. Through a CBDC, the commercial banks would be disintermediated. The policy would be set and implemented by the central bank directly.

It's true that there's already a net surrounding us, but CBDCs allow that net to be tightened further. For what it's worth, I don't particularly fear this, as I think attempts to employ it would push more people into Bitcoin. There are two systems we can choose from. A CBDC just makes the choice even more stark and obvious. It's an act of desperation from a failing system.

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What would be different? You create negative interest rate and people start ditching your money for other currencies or forms of value. Is it implemented via commercial banks or central bank, all the same to us users.

I haven't seen SINGLE thing that CDBC could implement that can't be implemented currently with current digital currencies we all use (Euro, dollar etc.).

And i have to be clear, i do not want CDBC. I just think it's not way worse than shit we have right now. That's why i run from current Euro to Bitcoin whenever i have excess of Euros.

If CDBC makes coince obvious, i'm all for it. People should understand what kind of system they live in. This way, when everything is behind this and that, this is not good for us, citizens. We need sunlight on our currencies.

My take would be that commercial banks are gradually disintermediated. So, we don't all immediately have accounts directly issued by the central bank, but perhaps access via products issued by commercial banks at first.

If this happens, I'd say it's a decent bet that the end goal would be for everyone to have direct CBDC accounts with the central bank, perhaps on the premise of financial inclusion for everyone.

Once commercial banks lose their status, there's nothing between the customer and the central bank issuing and, most important, programming, the currency. They can then do what they want (link access, rates, privileges, to your social credit score).

Like I say, I'm not overly concerned either, but I think this is the gist of most people's fears.

I have feeling like people are afraid of lot of things without realizing that those things are already around us, that we already live in that reality. Like, state can, now, without a change, block whoever they want from financial system. They can do it based on whatever...social score or color of hair or whatever crazy thing you can imagine. Right now, no change in currency whatsoever. Just look at China. They have cash and stuff and still they created such crazy ass things and are limiting interaction with the system in so many different crazy ways.

And i just want to be clear as it might get lost in my posts, i do not support CBDC. I just don't think that it will make our lives worse, i think we are already there. I don't see bad things in the future, i see them around us now, i experienced them myself on my own family and my banking which was one of few big reasons why i threw myself into Bitcoin long (in Bitcoin time) time ago.