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yeah, germans and austrians make awesome toilets, no problem with skidmarks... saw a lot of them in the netherlands too

but i think part of it has to do with the natural water supplies that were around, and in the case of some places, the hot springs

the romans and their aqueducts... this island #madeira is covered in them because of the tall mountain it rains on one side and is sunny and warm all year round on the other, so they had to build channels to divert the springwater to where they were comfy

i can assure you, it was a good idea, it's pretty cold here on the north side all year around, until this last month.

9sirtom5 1y ago

Yes. That's what I'm trying to say. It's coming from culture, much deeper and older then few decades of communism :)

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The Beave 1y ago

That makes sense. It is so deep even the commies couldn't erase it in a few decades.

9sirtom5 1y ago

Yeah. This is general.

Many people overestimate communism in this sense.

But look what was in central Europe before. Nacism. And before that? Austro-Hungarrian empire. The most of backwards of all the European monarchies.

In practical terms people many centuries under some form of feudalism.

The roots are very deep. I'm not sure if many Americans appreciate how good it is to have so long tradition in "freedom"

The Beave 1y ago

No. We do not.

We're powerful, rootless idiots. The worst kind.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

yeah, and before the austro-hungarians was the ottomans

things are still better, in a lot of ways, especially for eastern and central europe, everything up to czech/slovak/hungary/poland/slovenia this boundary is basically where europe gets better

things are not terrible in the southwest but i'm in portugal and that's probably as low as i'd be willing to go these days, i long for bosnia again