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I prefer older cars without the modern tech. But society is moving in this direction. You don’t think someone will make FOSS that you can override the OEM spyware? I run my own server, why can’t my car have a local, self-contained version of the same?
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Empka 8mo ago 💬 2

Just because society is moving in that direction it doesn't mean you have to follow if you don't want to.

We hardly have FOSS software for phones and PCs (even with linux/bsd tons of the firmware/bios stuff is still closed), so having it for cars is not going to happen anytime soon.

But that's besides the point, which is: why does your car need an AI?

A: press/turn a mechanical button, that you can see and feel (without looking)

B: talk to an AI, which runs on top of a zillion lines of code, is susceptible to spying, bugs, hacks, noise, errors in voice recognition, etc

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aco 8mo ago

I’m not thinking in the short term, this is far out tech. If I had a profile and the AI knew my preferences - my seat position, mirrors, climate temp, radio station, map/route would all be set before I buckle my seatbelt. If AI self drive was statistically safer than human I would want that for my next 8-hour drive with the kiddos in the back.

As for the spying, bugs, hacks, errors - how is that any different from what we have now? You could create a hardened OS that could essentially run offline.

I’m not saying it should happen, but there’s a non-zero chance it could shift that way.

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Empka 8mo ago

Most, if not all, of that stuff (seat, mirror, etc) can be done today, with no AI in your car, based on different keys/fobs for example.

The spying, hacks, etc is different, I'd like to see someone remotely hack a physical button/knob over wifi/bluetooth/etc.

You could create a lot of things, doesn't mean it's going to happen (wrt the hardened offline OS).

Car software today is already a mess of mostly duct taped together shit code that rarely get updates after a few years, since it's not profitable to do so.