Killing is evil sure. But what if the guy you kill was about to run off with some child in a sketchy looking van? You aren’t evil because you killed. Again, it’s subjective. What was the motive of the murder? What is your intent? Oh he was actually the kid’s dad and they have to get to the hospital to see his mom. Does that make you evil? No, you thought you were saving the child from a life of trauma and God only knows what. God knows that difference, I believe. Spiritually and emotionally, your heart was in a good place. And there were people back in the day who thought it was evil just like there are people today who don’t have a problem with it. None of this is absolute. Now you’re getting into the philosophy that I can’t think for God, I can only tell my own interpretation. Religion is captured by the people who are the “authorities” of it. Because they want MOONNNEYEYYYY. You think God stopped all the same works He did in the bible just because it’s the future? Hell no. We just don’t write it down as much anymore. And if you did you’d just end up in the same boat as Joseph Smith. You’d have a cult following (small c, as in not evil, just a small dedicated group of followers) but you wouldn’t upend modern christianity, despite how much it needs it. I think a lot of this is getting off on a tangent to your initial point tho. Do you think slavery is evil? Don’t have slaves. Oh you had slaves and now you’re in heaven. God, I’m guessing, would probably be like “That’s fucked up bro. I’m gonna count that one as a sin. Next slide.” I could think of several things more evil than slavery. A lot of them probably happened on a plane called the Lolita Express. Let’s calm down with the assumptions tho. lol. You can think slavery is bad and still think religion is a good moral compass. I think you’re hung up on the idea that if you believe in God, you have to believe EVERY SINGLE WORD in the bible. Mabye that’s not the case, maybe I’m going to hell. Time will tell. Tho I have doubts about hell too.
When it comes to religion and truth, it’s either all true and correct or it’s all nonsense. For example, religions claim to be the ultimate truth and the only path to salvation. All religions claim this. So when a claim is made that requires you to believe in it completely, then it should be scrutinized at every level. Since all religions fail under this level of scrutiny, the religion is flawed. And if all religions are flawed, then there is no way to distinguish between any of them being better than another.
I don’t buy that for a second. For one, satanism is not about being a path to salvation. It’s about living while you’re alive because there is nothing after. But Christianity and satanism espouse something like the golden rule. Wildly different institutions yet both espouse respect and responsibility. I like christianity and feel that it is more correct because I agree with the premise that there is something beyond this world and beyond the skin, that God would want to participate in his creation (Christ) and because I see the merits in self control of all kinds. But satanism espouses correcting one’s mistakes and employing logic. Doesn’t mean I’m satanic. Also, religion and truth are not the same thing. Religion is man’s attempt to live a meaningful life. It can give him meaning and direction when he has none, even if ultimately, it ends up being the “wrong religion”. Truth exists beyond all of that. Religion is a completely subjective experience. Truth exists whether you experience it, whether you employ it, whether you find it, respect it, or believe it or not. Religion is the attempt at knowing truth. Truth is objective fact. Not the same, and only one, in my view, is absolute.
Religion is man’s attempt to outsource meaning and morals. You can determine your own morals and meaning for yourself. Historically, most people choose religions to do that for them. I’m using the word choose loosely because most people don’t choose religion. They’re born into it and brainwashed as children.
But the ultimate problem in this discussion is that you have to choose the right religion. If you pick the wrong religion, you go to hell. That’s the problem. That’s why it doesn’t make sense. That’s why I asked about worship. Does it really fucking matter if the person was good but worshipped the wrong god? Or didn’t worship at all. A person who has done more good in this world than a Christian will end up in hell simply because he worshipped Buddha or shiva. How is that right?
It is that also, yes. Nothing is absolute across all people. You go to hell, or you just die and there’s nothing after, or you die and come back as a squirrel, or you die and feed a tree and become part of the collective consciousness. I don’t think it is right. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Christ only actually said love thy neighbors as thyself and the pharisees who wrote that were like “We’re gonna make SOOOOO much money if loving God is even more important than that, and tithing is part of the ritual.”
“Oh shit yeah! Write that down!"
This is a good point that raises another important question. Why would god give us something that is so easily corruptible like religion? And then he’s just like yeah figure it out yourselves or go to hell. Makes no sense.
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