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You can be for or against these demonstrations, but they are part of democracy. And they are not organized by political parties. Party symbols are unwelcome at many demonstrations, as are politicians. They are even intended as a pressure against the government

Anti Spasti 1y ago

Sorry Luna bit this is wrong. At least where I live in Germany.

These demos are obviously organized by the government against the political opposition. There is no doubt.

Example from my town: in school teachers tell the kids when to meet where and what to write on signs.

Same for two local sport-clubs. Football and basketball. Kids there are animated to go demonstrate against the opposition and people active in the local governments (‚Ampel’) told the trainers how to animate them more and they gave exact guides what sentences on the signs should be used!

This is very much known from the Stasi already and it is highly illegal afaik.

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Luna 1y ago

Where I live, even local politicians from all parties are unwelcome. Of course, you can't ban participation. But as far as the organization is concerned, no parties are involved. And explicitly so. It is an association of various clubs. And that's how I know it from other cities as well. Of course they are trying to jump on the bandwagon, but they are not taking the initiative.

Tanksen 1y ago

Well, if the local town community is organizing and promoting demonstrations (e.g. on Instagram), this is at least indirectly organized by the „ruling“ parties and bodies of the current government.

It is definitely not bottom-up, rather orchestrated.

Apart from that, we haven’t even been touching the „starting point“, which was the „report“ from Correctiv…🤷‍♂️

Luna 1y ago

I don't know where you live in Germany. But in my region, no one would go to these demonstrations if the “Ampel” parties had called for it 😂 The point is that I KNOW how it was organized in my community and in my parents'/sister's community. I received the relevant emails myself. I know who organized what and how. And I know that local politicians were asked to stay away. But I can imagine that it was and is different in other cities and especially in the big cities. I just don't like the general saying, because it doesn't match my community at least. And I'm not interested in judging whether these demos are good or bad

Luna 1y ago

To be honest, I'm shocked by what you say about sports clubs and teachers. My own son is a tennis coach and would never allow himself to be instrumentalized like that

Anti Spasti 1y ago

I was very much shocked too!

Keep your eyes and ears open. 🍀

Luna 1y ago

Always