Yeah, there isn't another one. Alby is it. The other extensions are Nostr signers only and have no Lightning wallet integration.

Alby got rid of their custodial wallet. In its place they gave us an incredibly user friendly, self-custody, Lightning node in Alby Hub. Good on them, IMO.

That said, if you still prefer free custodial wallets, you can use nostr:nprofile1qqst4qyeqenw7zm0fwjsty68h6cnys5jre2xd8ngqpjv5a2j26s78fspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm0d9hx7uewd9hj75a0pev. You can even connect it to your Alby extension, if you want.

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That's fine that they want profit, but it's not fine for nostr growth to have no good free solutions.

I use Alby Hub all the time. I have never paid a sat for it. It is 100% free to host yourself. You only pay Alby if you want them to host it for you.

Your only cost is setting up channels, but that's not Alby. That's just how Lightning works. You have to pay an on-chain fee to set up a Lightning channel, because a channel is just an on-chain UTXO shared by two parties. You also may need to pay your channel partner to keep the channel open, since it locks up their liquidity.

And there are good free options for Lightning wallets. I mentioned nostr:npub1h2qfjpnxau9k7ja9qkf50043xfpfy8j5v60xsqryef64y44puwnq28w8ch already. There's also nostr:npub1kvaln6tm0re4d99q9e4ma788wpvnw0jzkz595cljtfgwhldd75xsj9tkzv. Both of them can be connected to your Alby extension for free. You don't need to use an Alby wallet with your Alby extension.

Good to know, but not looking to become a lightning jockey just to kick around a few hundred sats. It might be smart for nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm to partner and come preconfigured with one of the free wallet solutions so they aren't locking newbies in a very small cage with lots of fine print.

There is no need to become a "Lightning jockey" to use Coinos or Minibits. Both are dead simple. And to connect them to Alby, you just need to snag a Nostr Wallet Connect string from the settings and paste it into your Alby account settings. Specifically, go to Settings > Wallet Configuration and choose to link a wallet. One of the options will be to do so using Nostr Wallet Connect. Choose that option and paste in the connection string you got from Coinos or Minibits. Then you're done.

No need to set up channels. No need to manage liquidity. Just free, custodial Lightning.

I do like the idea of Alby partnering with a custodial wallet provider, but I doubt they would go that direction. They are wanting to promote self-custody Lightning. That would be a step in the opposite direction, and a tacit admission that self-custody isn't for everyone.

It's just that it raises an unrealistic bar to entry IMO. Nostr should be as easy to participate in as Facebook. It's a better default for people who are ready to send around more than a few dollars.

Thanks for the tips. I'll take a look

Oh, I agree 100% that Nostr should be as easy to participate in as centralized platforms.

When you can tell me how much easier it is to set up zapping on Facebook, you might have a point. We're doing things here that are not possible on those platforms. Can you imagine what the process would be for connecting your bank account to Facebook so you could tip your friends' for their posts? Connecting a lightning wallet to a Nostr client is FAR easier, I assure you.

To participate in Nostr is dead simple. Download a client, generate your keys, put some info in your bio (or not) and start posting, commenting, following, reacting, etc. You can just stick with the default relays and media servers your client has prefilled. It takes WAY less time or effort to just "participate" on Nostr than it does to participate on a centralized platform. Have you tried setting up an account on X lately and the hoops they make new users jump through? It's ridiculous!

But there is a world of difference between simply getting started participating on Nostr, and being able to make the most of all that Nostr has to offer, such as being able to send and receive zaps, choosing the right client for the content you are interested in, properly protecting your private key, and all the other stuff that Nostr enables beyond just writing and interacting with kind 1 notes.

Zaps are something we take for granted now, since they have been integrated into the vast majority of clients, but that was not always the case. Nostr has been around since 2020, and zaps weren't even a thing until 2023. Before that, we were just pasting lightning invoices into our notes and hoping someone would be generous enough to pay them. There are plenty of folks on Nostr who do plenty of participating, but have no interest in sending or receiving of zaps.

What do you mean "locking newbies in a very small cage with lots of fine print."?

Really not what we want to do at all. You can use all our products for free and without an Alby Account.

This has not been my experience. That's what I've been trying to do, despite your 'fee credit' not real btc fine print, but now I'm locked out error 400 reached my limit. Nothing has changed on my end. I don't use any more volume than a dollar per week.

If you haven't done, please contact us at support.getalby.com. We'll help quickly via DM.

It started working again about a day later. Hopefully was just a hiccup