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For the church to replace the civil powers even at the local level is effectively to take over its function, and that's not for us to do. That's all I mean. We're meant to be 'not of' the world (on this we agree) but also 'in the world' (on this perhaps we do not). Duncan's an online bud so there's no real beef here :-)

Duncan Cary Palmer 2y ago

"A Song of Ascents. Of David.

Behold, how good and pleasant it is

when brothers dwell in unity!

It is like the precious oil on the head,

running down on the beard,

on the beard of Aaron,

running down on the collar of his robes!"

Psalm 133:1-2

No "beef" ever intended or implied, but I'm always keen to encourage good, meaty discussion. 😆

My contention is that "civil powers" as a neutral "sphere" ala Kuyper is an unbiblical categorization that has led the church down two erroneous paths; either complete disengagement with the state (i.e. with the kingdom of Satan) OR attempts to "reform" the state by political means (e.g. Christian nationalism).

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freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 2y ago

Amen!

Not a 'neutral' sphere, but a 'common' sphere, ruled by *God's* Lex Talionis (retributive law, i.e., justice) per the Noachic covenant and or natural law...