Replying to Avatar Ava

Ah, my friend—it seems you're still caught in the very ignorance I'm speaking to. You're still trying to convince yourself and others that you're less than divine, just wrapping it in the words of one who still believes they are born a sinner at birth.

We are Gods and Goddesses at birth—pure love—individuations of the All-in-All. Yet look how quickly you rush to reject this truth, to seek refuge in being "flawed but capable."

Consider what the great Masters taught about our true nature. When Jesus said "I and the Father are one," and "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods'"—he wasn't speaking of being "balanced" as a natural born sinner—he was declaring the truth of his divine nature, and ours.

While there is no punishment in the realm of the absolute, there are natural consequences in the realm of the relative. These aren't "payback" but simply the way life works: outcomes arise from outputs. We are creative beings with free will, experiencing and evolving ourselves through our choices.

Divine judgment doesn't exist—it's a human construct, not a cosmic reality. What we call "karmic punishment" as traditionally understood—the idea of cosmic payback or debt—also doesn't exist. If The One were to judge or condemn us, It would be judging and condemning Itself—as we are inseparable from source. If God judged us, She would be judging Herself, and if He condemned us, He would be condemning himself.

The teaching, echoed throughout ages across many traditions and faiths, is about acceptance of our divine essence. It's about releasing the need to see ourselves as anything less than what we truly are: pure expressions of divine love.

Remember, the longest journey isn't between good and evil—it's the journey from your head to your heart, from forgetting to remembering, from separation to oneness.
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Independent Thinker 10mo ago

"Thank you for sharing this beautiful perspective—it’s thought-provoking and resonates with some truths, but there are a few points where it diverges from the teachings of the Abrahamic scriptures, scientific understanding, and philosophical reasoning.

Let’s explore...

**On Being 'Divine at Birth'**

While it's beautiful to affirm our inherent dignity and connection to the Divine, the Abrahamic scriptures (Ethiopian Bible (I believe the less altered one), Torah, Quran) teach that humans are created in the image of God but are not divine themselves (not at least in this earthly physical form, but we sure have the potential to set us 'free'.)

We’re stewards, not gods. Jesus' statement, 'I and the Father are one' reflects his unique role, not a blanket declaration of human divinity.

Similarly, Psalm 82:6 (“You are gods”) is often misinterpreted—it refers to humans as judges or representatives of God’s justice, not as literal deities.

**On Flaws and Free Will**

The idea that we’re “flawed but capable” isn’t a denial of our potential—it’s a recognition of our humanity.

Science and philosophy both affirm that humans are imperfect beings with the capacity for growth. Quantum physics, for instance, shows that uncertainty and potential are fundamental to existence. *Free will* allows us to choose between good and evil, and this choice is central to our spiritual journey.

**On Divine Judgment and Karma**

While it’s true that God’s essence is love and mercy, the Abrahamic scriptures also emphasize accountability.

Divine judgment isn’t about punishment but about justice and the natural consequences of our actions. This aligns with the scientific principle of cause and effect. For example, if we harm the environment, we face climate consequences—not as “payback” but as natural outcomes.

**On Oneness and Separation**

The journey from separation to oneness is a profound truth echoed in many spiritual traditions, including Sufism, Kabbalah, and Christian mysticism. However, this oneness does not eliminate individuality or moral responsibility. Even in quantum physics, particles can be entangled (unified) while still maintaining their unique properties.

🤝 Where I fully agree with you is the importance of remembering our divine essence and moving from the head to the heart. The teachings of Jesus, the Buddha, and many other spiritual masters all bear witness to this universal truth. But this journey isn’t about denying our humanity—it’s about embracing both our potential and our imperfections, striving to align with divine will, and living with humility and gratitude.

Let's remember that we are both limited and limitless, both human and divine in purpose, flawed but capable of extraordinary goodness. 🙏

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