Back in the 1930s and 1940s, there were a lot of capital controls, lending restrictions, securities restrictions, etc. And it was for two different but intertwined reasons.

One obvious reason was that, among countries involved in trade wars or shooting wars, they wanted to reduce capital flows to the enemy.

A second reason was that, due to the war, sovereign debts became so high relative to GDP that they had to inflate away the debt, which was a form of default. It wasn't just 6102; it was a broad range of controls. Carmen Reinhart described it well as “creating a captive audience” in an

IMF Working paper:

“High public debt often produces the drama of default and restructuring. But debt is also reduced through financial repression, a tax on bondholders and savers via negative or belowmarket real interest rates. After WWII, capital controls and regulatory restrictions created a captive audience for government debt, limiting tax-base erosion. Financial repression is most successful in liquidating debt when accompanied by inflation. For the advanced economies, real interest rates were negative ½ of the time during 1945–1980. Average annual interest expense savings for a 12—country sample range from about 1 to 5 percent of GDP for the full 1945–1980 period. We suggest that, once again, financial repression may be part of the toolkit deployed to cope with the most recent surge in public debt in advanced economies.”

-IMF Working Paper No. 2015/007

Unfortunately, as most here know, both conditions are once again present in the 2020s. The US/Europe vs Russia/China contest is providing a useful excuse for governments to crack down on privacy, p2p exchange, money transfer, etc. Meanwhile, western governments have a similar sovereign debt problem that ultimately necessitates inflating the debt away.

Some of this Operation Chokepoint 2.0 stuff is just targeting scammy crypto companies and things like that. And the SEC enforcement actions are also going after crypto securities fraud and so forth. For bitcoiners, those things are not particularly relevant.

But under the surface, the bigger risk is all of the ongoing pressure on privacy, p2p, and the free flow of capital, including tighter bank restrictions and debanking.

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What options did people have during that time to protect their wealth since they didn’t have Bitcoin and Gold was illegal to own?

Real estate was a big one. Home prices shots up nominally and stayed there.

Stocks were okay. They chopped along in the 1940s at low valuations, paid high dividends, and then entered a major postwar bull market.

They had gold.

Only 50% of Americans complied with 6102.

Bittrex was not on my list of scammers

I’m nervous, as an American, that foreign counties do not want to hold dollars because America we sooo mixed the reserve currency when we froze Russian assets. If they dump dollars, doesn’t that create a massive surplus and greatly devalue our money? I fear that could be catastrophic for the dollar, but I am not sure how close (or far off) we are from that idea.

I hold Bitcoin primarily, but I also have a mortgage and have family that has mortgages and hold US debt, so I am still concerned.

Thoughts?

we weaponized*

It's funny when you "we" who is "we"? The average joe in us has nothing to do with that

We are far from dollar collapse. The British Pound took roughly 30 years to hand over its title.

I think I’ve seen multiple places that 60% of all countries reserves are in dollars or are dollar denominated. There are still plenty of dynamics abroad that create net dollar demand.

I feel ya, I have one property paid off and one with a low remaining balance.

What I did: Sold a 3rd rental at peak 2021 and stacked sats hard.

1.Divide your mortgage by 12 and make and extra payment in that amount each month. You'll cut your 30 year to a 15. If you have a low interest rate your in the green if you can keep your job.

2.Keep stacking sats.

3.Eliminate debt, credit card, car loans.

4.I keep a small amount of gold in my get out of town backpack. Zombies, hookers, and road gangs might not take sats.

5.Bury all the Jack Daniels and Marlboro cases you can on your fall back property.

No one knows when the bottom will fall out, but its not looking sunny. All we can do is position ourselves to be ready.

They will fight us. They will lose.

Capital control vs #Bitcoin

Lyn, please use https://habla.news for longer forms of writing

🤨 why isn’t Nostr good enough for you?

this is still nostr but for longer forms of writing

I’m watching very closely

I think my last straw before I consider greener pastures would be a complete cut off of Bitcoin rails federally

Hopefully this doesn’t happen with states like Florida and Texas putting their foot down but at the end of the day the fed and gov could make those irrelevant if they choose to use muscle

On one hand, yes, this would probably (certainly) be a strong exit signal. On the other this why I think people need to be preemptively leaning into permissionless exchange in their acquisition strategy…

P2P bitcoining / permissionless exchange is the a follow-up orange pill (an orange pill booster, if you will lol) that many bitcoiners still need.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/get-non-kyc-bitcoin-before-you-need-it

P2p will only be allowed in between kyc wallets / cold storages for the ramps.

Everything else will be happening within the circular Bitcoin economy including p2p as means of exchange, as what Bitcoin was originally designed for.

It will also mark the beginning hyper bitcoinization.

US system is not supposed to work like that, but let’s see!

The current political, economic, manufacturing, and trade environments are completely different from those in the 1930s and 1940s, coupled with the three-year excessive monetary policy of the epidemic and the opposition and division of public opinion

Lyn was this a strategy that they employed to those ends, or was it just an effect their authoritarian policies & money printing ways had?

I mean to say, is this an ex-poste rationalization or was this a planned strategy with the desired effect of taxing bond holders and savers?

My reading of history points to a bit of both.

FDR with the gold confiscation and dollar devaluation was premeditated.

For the 1940s, that was more haphazard. Inflation broke out from war-related money printing, and the Treasury basically forced the Fed to keep yields low to finance the war, which combined with the gold ban and capital controls, inflated away large swaths of debt.

The gold ban ensures that people's savings can be controlled, and now people have more ways to store their wealth in gold, other countries' currencies and assets, Bitcoin and cryptoassets. With political rivalries and divided public opinion, geopolitics and the collapse of petrodollars, the crisis will be difficult to deal with. The choice is either a truce between great powers or a financial crisis.

Meta: it's epic that you're starting to post nostr-only content!

Why did the confrontation between Russia, China and the United States cause your privacy to decline? I don’t quite understand.Can you tell me what you understand?

It's a start of the actual cold war. Fear of spying and "enemies" are all around you hence suppression of privacy and rights.

It contributes to regulators cracking down on p2p exchanges, things like tornado cash, etc. And now proposals like the RESTRICT Act.

They were already doing kyc and so forth but now they have more narrative justification to try more draconian things.

Unlike the 1930s/1940s, though, Congress is very divided politically.

They will try everything, the question is if they really have in their hands the power of enforcement

If bitcoin fullfill his promise of freedom, and really gives freedom to people, game over for the church of the state, but will people choose that freedom ?will bitcoin be not only a technological but also a moral achievement ?

All of which make Bitcoin more valuable, does nothing to stop or slow it down, and prove it against the worst attacks.

Bitcoin diciplines politicians.

You are phenomenal at what you do.

capital controls are a risk for the many who still have most of their assets in the legacy system. for those who have found their way to the decentralized, open-source system, the risk that concerns me is how far they are willing to take the enforcement of a modern day 6102

Inflating debt away through those measures worked because they could restrict and claim gold so there was no escape. It is a different story with bitcoin as it is not material.

Who benefits the most from RESTRICT act, pressure on privacy, and other restriction?

It seems to me like this is not in any common persons interest to have.

You should start using NIP23 for these kind of "notes"...

https://thebitcoinmanual.com/articles/how-to-migrate-your-blog-to-nostr/

Markets are stronger today, they will resist, and the parasites will die hungry, the knowledge today has expanded

Hey Lyn any idea what would be done if Schwab started to fail? Trading with volume like something pretty seriously wrong there. 7 tril bailout?

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