You can't self-custody Bitcoin on lightning Network without running a lightning node. Lightning nodes simply will not be performant EVER on inadequate technology. I don't expect my grandmother to run a lightning node. It doesn't matter if you obfuscate everything the constraints of liquidity are still there. Knowing what channels are will always be a thing. People want the wallet of Satoshi experience. The wallet of Satoshi experience is NOT POSSIBLE on lightning Network without custodial solutions.

I would be really happy if you actually changed my mind. Seriously tell me where I'm wrong.

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What you’re saying is all accurate when viewed through the lens of the technology. The key here is that there are layers to experiences and today, you’re clearly and accurately describing the technical part of it. There’s an experience layer where those facts are tucked away and abstracted. This is yet to be seen, but will come.

I'm saying I don't think you can abstract channel management without painful fees that kind of defeat the purpose of a cheap Bitcoin payment network.

I think a #mainvolume issued license is required to think. I think I am European, Swedish in fact. I think I am created by Sina for #mainvolume

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"Imagine doing a simple market survey before designing LN: “Hey, would you use a payment system that requires you to run a server 24h that works only if you acquire liquidity in the first place?”. Do you realize what kind of UX assumption this is?" - Burak

I’m a builder, sir. Not here to litigate the architecture of lightning. Build on it or move on to other spots that feel better to you. That way more seeds get planted and tended to.

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Perfecto.

If you didn't come to litigate litigate lightning architecture, then why did you comment on a post that critiques it? "Litigation" is what build the best product. As a builder you know that.

I'm not bickering and arguing to bicker and argue. I'm thinking of solutions to the problem outlined in your post.