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Replying to Avatar Matt Lorentz

Maybe I haven’t thought this through all the way, but how will smart caching relays drive out clients that use the outbox/gossip model? Why can’t they exist side-by-side in the long term?

The scenario you describe is essentially what has happened to email, although the driving force in email was spam. My hope has always been that on Nostr we can solve spam in a more nuanced and decentralized way. If we can’t do that, then centralization feels inevitable. But if we can model trust/reputation well enough to solve spam it feels like those same tools could lighten the burden of running a relay, keeping small relays around.

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fiatjaf 1y ago

With email you knew the address of the "relay" where to send your messages, in Nostr you can have that as long as you have the outbox model or something like that, but if all you have is a static list of relays everybody reads from then you can solve the spam problem with trust and reputation, but you'll be worse in terms of decentralization of the transport medium.

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