At what point are the Bitcoin whales gonna start backing actual Bitcoiners in elections?
The shitcoiners got Trump elected.
At what point are the Bitcoin whales gonna start backing actual Bitcoiners in elections?
The shitcoiners got Trump elected.
Why would the whales who invested in decentralized money intended to be separated from the state get involved in state scams like elections?
Good point. If we could have like a majority or something like that then yes but having one talking head doesn't give much. Im talking here about financial support. Talking friends to vote for some1 is good as one talking head got some capability of spreading information. As to trump, look at his friendship with israel, shitcoiners didnt get him elected. I think he also had big support among regulat people.
Majority rule is no different from mob rule. This is not a solution.
Laws exist and if you can stop creating worse laws or lower taxation or allow people to own guns (most important) by having majority then having it is beneficial
What are laws?
Rules forced upon people. Do you want less laws or more? I know, I know lack of laws but if you cannot get there, less laws would be better right? And yes, I know it doesn't happen often.
Where do these laws come from?
As I wrote above: forced upon. Which means that some1 with power made them. Yes I know, politicians made them. Thing is if talking head belongs to you, it can also remove them.
Where did this person/people get the power to force these rules upon others?
Seized it with violence
So you acknowledge that the people in power are violent and gained their power unjustly. And you want me to vote for them?
Power was seized hundreds of years ago. Currently its being passed. I want you to own power, best is if power is decentralised but if anyhow you can influence that power that is still centralised to make leash longer or get more "freedom" ("" bc freedom is undivisable) then yes, I want you to get that. PS. I didnt vote for idk 10years(?) except for a fountain in my town couple days ago :)
I don’t want power over other people. I want individual freedom. If you have to vote for freedom, then you’re already a slave.
Newsflash, you are a slave now. Doesn't matter if you vote or not. As I said I dont vote either (I don't think much can be gained by that) but any way that will work towards more "freedom" or freedom is worth at least considering. Owning talking heads is quite good one, if you can truly control them.
Voting gives more power to them. Not voting takes you further away from them. Your solution is silly.

There’s always going to be some form of government and eventually people that understand how the money works will be in charge. Might as well get that ball rolling. Also it’s weird that the republican bitconers aren’t mad that Trump and his buddies are showing up late to the game and are now running massive successful crypto scams pumping their bags to the moon.
What I'm reading seems contradictory. On the one hand, we should get the ball rolling since government will always exist. On the other hand, the republican bitcoiners learned that giving power to anyone in government does not guarantee their freedom or livelihood will improve.
Just to be clear, I don't believe that there will always be some form of government. Governments are made up of people. Those people will not work for free. If they don't have an easy way to tax people, it will wither away and die. The end of fiat makes a world without government technically possible. Voting for government to do bitcoin things only extends the life of government. Not sure why anyone would want that especially bitcoin whales.