That other extreme can be charming too. I like the rustic little churches that are just simple. Like, maybe the two extremes should combine - Sundays with the stained glass and the shiny costumes, and regular quaker style gatherings in a side room. Maybe that exists and I just don't know it...

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yeah, i haven't been able to participate in the after-part of it, people tend to stand around outside chatting and i am portuguesally challanged for that

getting my routine in better balance will help me get there, portuguese is not a simple language but it's simpler than german or russian