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It’s weird how people think it is some kind of sign of true religiosity to say they believe in God or believe in Christ or whatever it is. It’s like, okay? You believe in something. Meaning, you don’t know. You don’t know if it is actual, so you must believe. Believing in things is what children do, literally. They believe in Santa Claus. What does that really mean? It means they identify with the fabrications of their internal mental activity, probably from things that were planted into them by some else or a book. It means you’re stuck at the level of mind, which is not your spirit. It’s your mind, its ideas, its intellectualism, aka, not your spirit. From new agers to modern Christians, almost nobody I speak to these days really seems accept this concept that there is a direct experience to be had with an aspect of your being that you could only describe as spirit if you had the skill to soak into it directly, which very few humans have ever achieved, hense why remarkable people like Jesus, who could do it, are remembered forever. It is the idea that your spirit is literal, just like your physical body. It’s a literal thing that you can, under rare circumstances, absorb into entirely. In other words is “real”. Not a metaphor, not morality, not psychology, and definitely absolutely nothing to do with astrology, healing, past lives, dimensions, none of that. Mind goes away, body goes away, and all your ideas of God or whatever else are recognized as mostly pointless mental fabrications and your life is forever changed if you are to experience this aspect of reality for even 1 second. Therefore it’s much better to strive to “know” rather than believe. Believing is silly, there is something tangible to know directly, and it’s not easy to achieve!

i've had things whispered in my ear, that made big things happen to me, after i followed instructions in philippians 4:6-7

i was in a pretty hard core bad situation, but this was a concrete event that showed me that this stuff works

you have to try, it's not that big a deal to talk to yourself in privacy, really

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"MAT 6.6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly *."

--- KJV , Matthew 6:6

i never heard this verse before but it is consistent with my experience

you can't speak with the Lord in public

and that's also why when you hear the pastor bleating some bullshit on the pulpit to "god" yeah, no, this guy does not deserve your attention

first rule of prayer club is you do not share it with anyone else AT ALL

Here's some more insight from Matthew

"MAT 6.5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you *, They have their reward."

--KJV

This above reminds me of people praying around abortion clinics and crying about getting arrested.

"MAT 6.7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

-- KJV

This reminds me of Hare Krishna "Maha Mantra " as a ritualized catch all for synchronized relationship with God. Myself being guilty of promoting this nonsense.

The word used for "much speaking" is...

πολυλογια, — pol-oo-log-ee'-ah; from a compound of (4183) (πολυς) and (3056) (λογος); loquacity, i.e. prolixity: — much speaking.

Transliterated: polulogia;  Pronounced: pol-oo-log-ee'-ah from a compound of 4183 and 3056; TDNT 6:545; n f Trans. & freq. in the AV- much speaking 1 time;

1 occurrence of Greek word in AV 1. much speaking -- Strongs {g4180} Concordance

Now Jesus does give us a public prayer as an example of how to pray. It's known as the "Lords Prayer."

So I think by investigating this and researching the Greek texts we find out that it's not just public but humble prayer that is to be explored as, "I'm not a high priest conjuring the great God to do this but I am humbly asking Our Father."

MAT 6.9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

MAT 6.10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

MAT 6.11 Give us this day our daily bread.

MAT 6.12 And forgive us our debts, as *  we forgive our debtors.

MAT 6.13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

-- KJV (King James Version)

My reason here is that criticizing Christianity without studying the foundational texts is just click baiting, gas lighting and also unproductive. My own criticism was based on my thinking I knew what was in the Bible because I "heard it all already."

Having read it now several times and finally reading the comparative Hebrew and Greek with a significant background in Indo-European Sanskrit my mind is blowing up with how amazing the language is and my own ignorance while still having the impulse and desire to pray has led me full circle to Christ.

thank you for this, and praise God for sending it, not that this meaningless public statement means anything

but i still do have much happies at hearing this text

seeing it

the rules are simple, if you have but ears and eyes to hear and see