I don't think its as simplistic as that. I see it as the opposite.
It can be summed up with the famous henry ford quote: "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses".
its a thought experiment to determine what is the best version of what the user wants based on what they think they want.
80% of dev work is reverse engineering what the client actually wants vs what they tell you they want. most product/dev people know this. its not new.
You sir, are not Henry Ford.
I funded a 0.1 BTC bounty to get lightning polls on Nostr before March 2023 - nostr:note1z45d87h5s275g7svp5mu08jp9mdsnftd7xvslpmrv8nswtyzadvqw4nyyw
It’s October 2025 and Damus still doesn’t have this feature.
One of the most popular features on Xitter, the perfect usecase to increase zap flows on Nostr, and instead you went off and designed a fucking dining table for horses, rather than service your Users.
So don’t give me your thought experiment bullshit Will.
People want polls. You’ve not delivered in 2.5 years, and instead sidelined your iOS app which was popular enough for the CCP to ban it so you could focus on “other things”.
noone is obliged to implement a feature you want. pay someone to implement it if you want it implemented. we obviously don't think its the most important thing for nostr to succeed, or else we would have prioritized it.
the top of our list right now is better content discovery, onboaring, communities, etc
the number one feedback we get is people who join and leave because its hard to find non-bitcoin content. they aren't leaving because they don't have fucking zap polls. how entitled do you have to be to talk to people like this on the internet?
No, of course they’re not!
That’s why I put up a 0.1 BTC bounty. Of which you or your team could have had a share if the Damus project wasn’t led by a fucking moron.
Getting zaps flowing and seeing how a lightning firewall works in social media was obviously important though, given you were at the forefront of that followed by Cameri with the relays.
You were just too shortsighted to see how other zap usecases could help accelerate adoption and have ignored the usecase for 2.5 years since; because you’re Henry Fucking Ford, and we should all adopt whatever slop you now pump out!
I pay tens of million of sats of my own money every months out to people working on damus to get actual work done, i'm putting my money where my mouth is. this work is not easy and people are busting their ass off trying their best. you are an entitled prick and are now muted, bye.
Nah bruh, you can manage your lightning node in notedeck though. That will have the normies piling in 😂
Well if you can manage your lightning node through your desktop Nostr client then that’s definitely better than the social use case of lightning polls!
After all, how else are you going to manage your lightning node?! What, through the other myriad of lightning node apps???! Like a fucking retard???!
Of course not!
Now if you wanted to see more zaps flowing on Nostr what would be a good way to do that? Lightning polls maybe?.. Which could lead to prediction markets.. Which could have seen Polymarket built on Nostr but for the Devs who think your social client needs to run your fucking node..
Literally don’t know one person who wants polls. That’s stupid. Also, you might want to get off your high horse and be a little less entitled.
Polls are already a thing just use a client that supports them
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Poll with 2 votes lol
my main concern is a single script that could be written to ruin every poll that pops up. it would be very easy. we don't have the web of trust quality i would like to be at to filter those out. and even then it would only be results from your friends, which has limited usefulness. best part of X polls is that they are open to everyone, but that mainly works because its centralized and can do that.
also polls on X are anonymous which makes people more willing to engage with them. Something you can’t really do on nostr. Some things just work better on a centralized network. Its easy to *blame the devs* when you don’t have to do the actual work to make it work
It’s easy to feign ignorance when the bounty specified open polls to avoid the brigading of polls seen on Xitter when you think of yourself as the Henry Ford of a particular industry.
If Polls were rolled out when I put up the bounty, they’d be getting more than 2 votes today.
But Henry Ford here knew we didn’t need polls, we just needed a desktop version of his iOS app.
I was the first person to donate to him and have never touched his desktop client because I don’t need another fucking desktop client, contrary to what Henry Ford says.
Your conception was fundamentally flawed from the start. Polls only work when there isn't a buy in. I use Amethyst (which has your polls) and I have talked with lots of other Amethyst users. None of us like or use polls, and the reason is because they charge Sats.
The reason is because they never got support from other clients, mainly due to the other major client at the time, Damus, not implementing them.
It wouldn't matter now, because Damus is a minor client, one of many on iOS, and no longer the best option anyways. Yakihonne is better in every way, and has poll support.
Dude we have support. A bunch of us use Amethyst. None of us use polls. Using these retarded pay-to-win polls would be insulting to everyone reading my post.
The problem isn't the percentage of people who have access to polls. The problem is that polls turn what should be a genuine human interaction into a transaction.
Maybe instead of asking how many people have access to zap polls as a feature, you should be asking how many people have chosen not to connect a wallet to their account despite the fact that lightning support is practically ubiquitous?
You can make it a simple 1 sat to vote poll, it doesn't have to be pay to win. There are limits built into the nip and the implementation. A small payment is a perfect way to disincentivize spammers too. Free polls will be useless due to them
And you're plainly wrong. Being available in only one client is a huge issue that makes features non viable, use your head. If it's only working for a small number of users, it won't gain traction. We see this constantly on Nostr.
Just because you don't know how something works doesn't make it a bad idea 🤷♂️
Dude, you don't get it. 0 sats would be too many. A poll should not require people to get out their wallets. Period. It doesn't matter what they take out or don't take out of their wallets.
Tbh Nostr's spam issue is way overblown. The people who care most about it only care because they are looking for excuses to shove Bitcoin into everything. No offense if that describes you.
Again, it doesn't matter if it was available to everybody. I'm telling you it STILL wouldn't gain traction. And I have given specific reasons for this conclusion.
Just don’t use #Damus because Polls
are not supported there 2.5 years after a bounty to get them implemented was released because Will “Henry Ford” Casarin decided nobody wanted them even though he was building a Xitter clone and just left out this important Xitter feature
I prefer Damus as my default client
Sorry bro, no polls for you. Will didnt want to develop that feature, he wanted to make another client for desktop and compete with all the other desktop clients they serve that space just fine.
some people think that making an app is simply adding every feature that everyone asks for. if people want that they could just use amethyst. damus ios is trying to do one thing and one thing well. I don't even think its that good at what it does yet. still trying to make it more performant.
next testflight is really slick, adds local relay and offline support via the embedded relay! should help with low connectivity environments.
Got polls in there Henry Ford?
No?
I just want a faster horse?!
How does go fuck yourself sound?
I get your point. But this is nostr. On nostr, Damus is just one app.
Does nostr give you polls? Yes. use the app that provides it.
Expecting every app to have every feature is a recipe for failure.
You missed the part where I put up a 0.1 BTC bounty to get this implemented on Nostr.
Forgive me for not falling to my knees and sucking Henry Cassarin’s cock
No I saw that. And that’s very generous of you.
But like if I put a bounty of 1 bitcoin for Amethyst to remove streaming that doesn’t mean my idea is now worth 1 bitcoin.
Except I didn’t put a bounty up to remove stuff?
I put a bounty up when there were a few thousand ppl here everyday to build something, and that something still doesnt exist in Henry Ford’s corner of #Nostr, 2.5 years later.
So you’re mad because you randomly sent money to someone and they didn’t magically do everything you asked for? got it.
Go hire your own dev. Fork the code and build your own. 🤷♂️
