its germaine to the discussion how these things are *actually used*

if 1% of "bitcoiners" actually use it in a self-sovereign way

that is the anonset you and I are hiding in.

for example

up to a certain date all my coins went through Whirlpool and were sent to cold storage.

from a Chainanal point of view

I have an anonset of other Whirlpool txs.

they know some utxos went in, were mixed and came out the other side.

thats opt-in privacy.

it's SOMETHING but relatively speaking, it's not a very large anonset.

because 99% of users do nothing.

in contrast to monero.

you see where this is going...

Bitcoin has opt-in privacy. weak opt-in privacy since there's no good tools right now.

even if you jump through all the LN hoops and do everything right

its still a tiny group of people doing that.

so no, transactions are not, in any way "private"

and there's a reason why we have a *default private* L1.

if yall were actually intellectually honest you'd stop trying to pretend like theres anything equivalent.