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we're just supposed to die when we're 30 because we were not fast enough to run away from a tiger ...

These numbers are not correct because they do not adjust for infant mortality. This subject has been addressed before. Prior to modern times infant mortality happened at horrific rates, but for those who survived past age 5, generally they lived "normal" lifespans. E.g. in the middle ages, it was more like 50s-60s.

All mainstream intellectuals repeat these fake figures because they believe in progress ideology and want to make the past seem worse than it was, but it was harsher than today for sure.

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Dissident Sound 9mo ago

humans didn't evolve during the middle ages ...

Prince Aleph 9mo ago

Agreed - I do think life spans generally get shorter the farther back you go. 40 does seem like old age in some ways - it's the age at which you most likely have seen everything and what comes after is more of the same.

Dissident Sound 9mo ago

that's not what i meant.

in ancient cultures old people are traditionally killed.

this was a custom in Japan for example.

and tribesmen would kill anybody too old to climb a palm tree.

social security is a recent invention.

in the nature you don't die from old age - you are killed.

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Dissident Sound 9mo ago

it's not that people are longer lived today

it's that they cling to life more

in Russia if you're over 55 the ambulance doesn't come

Americans are a bunch of pussies who first try to avoid death and then try to go to heaven

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Prince Aleph 9mo ago

I was responding to the musings about age 40 from Tirza in a philosophical sense but I see where you are coming from.

When I visited Indochina I saw few old people even today, although the exceptions were rich people or Buddhist monks living in monasteries.