Hey nostr:npub1zafcms4xya5ap9zr7xxr0jlrtrattwlesytn2s42030lzu0dwlzqpd26k5 is this a thing/on the roadmap?

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giftwraps are a fucked standard

worse is better I guess? they are not ideal but it works.

all it protects is from metadata leaks, I would rather have metadata leaking forward secrecy

Do you mean that gift wraps break forward secrecy?

they have none which is a bigger deal than metadata leaks

This is somewhat technical and might be tricky to wrap a noggin around.

to get metadata privacy with giftwraps you make a fairly large tradeoff: you have to give up filting at the protocol level. you have to accept unmarked envelopes from anywhere. this can easily be abused and spammed, you have to unwrap the note to see who its from which has computational costs. so you could in theory DoS someone with lots of giftwraps and theres no way around that.

I believe semisol is saying that he would rather not make this tradeoff and just focus on tech that gives forward secrecy if he had to make the choice (correct me if I'm wrong)

They aren't mutually exclusive though, there are things like semisol channels where you could have fairly good metadata hiding and forward secrecy, but its a 1-to-1 thing instead of from anyone.

that’s one half of my point, yes

my other point is a solution offering forward secrecy only is preferable to metadata privacy only

Gift wraps also lack plausible deniability

Noggin wrapped. Thanks Will

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Short answer is yes. The challenge is extremely limited resources.