I have seen someone taking ped's and his shoulders went broad etc. He was abusing it, and he did not have any grain of mercy towards his own body for litterally developing the complications of abuse. But he did get results while doing not much. Almost nothing.
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There are gains that are unfair and unnatural.
Unfair to whom? He's just a dude who changed his life drastically for the better. Cant you just be happy for him? Why the hate? How does it affect you or anyone else?
I do have to acknowledge the fact that I don't know if he actually took steroids. Joe Fazer (idk if you vnow him) also grew from weak to training his body with good results.
But the decisions are not generally not the best.
as comparison, I wouldn't be cheering someone who tells me that he has setup a coinbase wallet to learn about Bitcoin. The intention might be good, but the way you get there might not be the best.
Well abuse is abuse. Just because this person wasnt responsible does mean others arent. And doing nothing cannot build muscle regardless of what may have happened to his shoulders. Thats not how these substances work. I have experience with them. I do know how they work. I injured myself mid-cycle during my last cycle, but keep the cycle going so just to finish the bottle. I lost some of my gains even while still on it. Work needs to be done
Yes, but would you get the same results if you did not take PED's?
No but that's irrelevant. You're making this seem like he is in some organized competition and using banned substances. Its just a dude living his life.
It is really relevant. Because it shows other possibilities than what the body would actually do. If it is for medical reasons, I would agree. But most people are going on trt after using PED's because they messed up their body. And that is something that I wouldn't want to happen to anybody.
But its his life. Its nobody's business but his. Isnt privacy a thing anymore? Werent we irritated in recent years when some people thought other people's health decisions were their business? And again, this is all 100% assumption. Just be happy for the guy.